Gents
Its been awhile. This Season wasn't a particularly good one for Fishing, but so be it.
As my Season has ended, I am starting to build a few Rods for Penn 9/109/27. I have a few cheap Blanks off eBay that I have started to build. 3 have Plate-type Seats and a couple, I am thinking, won't have a Seat.
If I drill the Reels for a Clamp, can I just use the Clamp to secure the Reel? Or, will I also need to use Brass/Stainless Eye Screws off the Rear Bar and Clamp it there also?? I hope you get the picture.....
I am thinking about Rod Seat-less as it will allow me to move the Reel anyplace on the Rod Handle.
Thoughts??
Steve
Difficult for me ta visualize your written description, but it's probably just me(eye screws?).
Newell made some nice wide combo. seat/clamps that enabled one to move smaller reels( mine was ona Squidder) around on the rod handle.
G...
I will have to find the Newell Clamps.
As to what I was trying to explain - Use Eye Bolts with a long-ish Shank. Take the rear Bar off the Reel, put it thru the Eye Bolt and reinstall. Use the Eye Bolt and a 2nd Clamp to firm up the Reel.
(https://i.imgur.com/6phBF0H.jpg?1)
Steve
I have one that fits on the Squidder. Got the bars n spool from Newell that are still on the reel, but I went back to the stock stand(30-49). Would this fit the 9 class?
I saw that but couldn't work out how it attaches. I now see the small screws where it attaches to the Reel.. cool, I will have to take another look..
was even looking at the Cork Puppy.
thanks
Steve
So - let me get this straight....
A 30-49 Penn 146 Stand is the same as the 30N-9 Penn 9 Stand, other than the Clamp Holes???
S
You will get better stability using one of these things then clamping or lashing it to the rod.
http://www.fujitackle.eu/product/559/category/153 (http://www.fujitackle.eu/product/559/category/153)
A cork puppy may be a little big for a Penn 9 or 109.
-steve
Naw, looks like the 30-49 stand ain't gonna fit ona Penn 9. Not that I could check it first-hand, but went onto mysticparts(Penn Parts) site and they have a compatibility chart for most parts. I like to use Mysticparts to check-out part compatibility, part avalibility possible substitutions before I buy a Penn.
Steve
LOLOL I have quite a few of those - Plate-type Reel Seats, and like them. Have used a few already. If the Mounting Ears on the front and rear were a bit longer, they would be perfect. I also have a couple of Coaster Reel Seats:
(https://i.imgur.com/Zldc43s.jpg)
that I thought I would like. I am on the fence with them right now.
I tried the Reel Clamp idea with a 500 last night after seeing your Post. I think the Clamp will work. Might still try to augment with something else. Will take some pictures as I continue to play.
Gf...
I use their Site also. Hope it never goes away.
Too bad that the 49 Seat won't fit. Thanks for looking though.
Steve
Lashing is less obtrusive and stronger but it takes a long time to remove the reel. Any of those clamps are fine if the rod is going to spend the day in a rod holder or bait-and-wait sand spike or something. But if you spend the day holding the rod and casting those clamps are a nuisance and uncomfortable.
-steve
Yea, I noticed that just playing with them Steve
I have still been playing around with the idea of an adjustable Reel Clamp so I can go 'seat-less' on a few Rods I am building.
Here's the latest thought:
(https://i.imgur.com/lzTfVu0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WD6joEa.jpg)
Now I have to find an Eyebolt that has ~2.5" shank while still keeping the 3/16" Eye diameter (without spending $6/bolt lollol)
Steve
ps
the Red is just some tubing i had around acting as a Spacer so the Bolts don't wander around when they are lose.
S
Sundancer,
That's a neat and novel approach. Even though the eye screws are toward the outer portion of the frame, does tightening of the clamp to secure the reel properly have any torqueing effect on the frame?
I'm guessing if the level wind and/or the spool function is not correct, that would be the giveaway.
Not at all knocking your idea, I'm just more curious than anything. If it works, you might consider doing away with the wing nuts in favor of regular nuts for a more trim installation. Not as convenient but definitely easier on the hands.
I have a gent that comes into the shop that lashes almost all his conventional reels down and I've commented to him that it must be a pain when you have to remove the reel. I was surprised when he said, no big deal, ... he just removes the side plate screws that secure the foot, and pulls the reel off leaving the foot in place. Simple and interesting way to go, I guess.
Please keep us posted as you go forward.
.........................Lou
I like your way of thinking Steve, I could see that working. I would recommend turning the eye bolt opened end towards the outer side of the reel so the line doesn't get caught in therte.
Thanks for sharing your ideas with us and keep us posted on your progress.
Best,
Sal
Gents
all good points.
The Wingnuts are just from the Clamp off a 500. i have cheap Nuts that came with the Bolts. If using Nuts, I would lean toward Nylocks, just to make sure they stay put..
The Eyebolts are closed, but their end is a little rough, I will turn them around.
My concern is shearing the Bar Screws. Once i had the longer rear Bolts, I will have to tighten til the Reel is firm and see what my comfort level is with the stress. I have no method to test their shear load.
Lou.
If that Gentleman comes in, recommend the Plate-type Seat. He can lash down the Seat, and easily remove the Reel without partially dismantling the Reel. The chinesium ones are cheap as chips but even the Fuji from Mudhole is only a few dollars:
(https://i.imgur.com/dakIezB.jpg)
He can lash the Seat down at both ends (see the 'ears') and in the middle.
I will get back to you once i get the other 2 Bolts
Steve
PS, and completely unrelated:
(https://i.imgur.com/gJ06X1z.jpg)
Steve, Its a great idea, Plus it spreads the clamping over a longer area and that's a good thing! I was just curious if it had any effect on the frame?
I don't think I've ever seen one of the Plate type seats and that's a snap compared to what he's doing. If I recall, he's using several layers of heat shrink tubing. He's a bottom fisherman and I guess the strength is sufficient.
On your setup, how about 2 of the composite Penn clamps? If the center distance is to wide you could possible put a flat on each clamp to compensate for it and let them butt together. Don't know if its any better than having all that hardware hanging off the bottom.
Anyways, your on the right track, .... Lou
The regular Reel Clamp has always been an idea - and maybe it is the correct one, but we would have to drill holes in the Reel Foot for the Clamp Screws just like all the larger Reels that already use the Clamp..
Will have to try..
S
Finally!
A way to clamp an 85 to a deck-hand rod! Why haven't I thought of that? I don't see that thing flexing or torquing much.
Ron
Quote from: sundancer on November 30, 2018, 03:47:51 PM
PS, and completely unrelated:
(https://i.imgur.com/gJ06X1z.jpg)
too too too funny and too too too true!
Gents
Bit of an update.
Got a box of 3/16 x 2.5" Eyebolts for the rear. Needed the extra length for the rear. Unfortunately it seems that the longer the Shaft, the larger the Eye gets, irrespective of the dimension listed.
Using a traditional Reel Clamp might still be the better way, but I am still trying the 2 Clamps off the front and rear Bars. Although considably more parts, I think this will work.
I am preferring the Wingnuts as they can be adjusted without tools.
Here's what I have now:
(https://i.imgur.com/BEdzZvA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PgngkSi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L82vbra.jpg)
The red Tubing over the Bolts is just that, Tubing to protect the exposed length.
At this time I can't see any racking of the Frame, all works as it should. The real test will be in use. I can always go back to a real Reel Seat.
What are your thoughts?
Steve
Another one that I thought was perfect...
(https://i.imgur.com/6BRXFsS.jpg)
FWIW
I finally drilled 2 holes for a traditional Clamp. it seems to work well, although I have to bend the Bolts a little to get them straight, perpendicular to the Rod.
I am now inclined to try 2 Clamps, the same way, off the Seat. I think this is the way to go but only time on the water will tell.
Can do pictures is interested
Thanks again guys..
Steve
and
PS
(https://i.imgur.com/7UEMRCA.jpg)
Pictures are always welcome!
The Man
(https://i.imgur.com/NE47WJD.jpg)
Have to measure the Foot to see if there is room for 2 Clamps. It seems stable, especially considering it is on the Paracord-wrapped Handle, which is kinda soft, but who knows once the 'worm hits the water..'.
Steve