My penn battle has put up years of abuse on the sf beaches snaring crabs. It is time for me to upgrade, and I am looking to go conventional this time. A lot of guys recommend the penn 525mag for casting 8 and bait. Are there any other reels I should consider? Daiwa sl20sh?
Oooh, I'm looking for recommendations here too, at the moment using a pursuit 6000 off Pacifica. Just got a nice jigmaster and thinking of using that with a static mag for snares. Don't think my squidder is up for the task, casting upwards of a pound of lead and bait as far as towards the horizon. Also trying to see what line I should use on the conventionals, is 30 pound mono enough? Using 40 pound power pro on my reel tight now.
Quote from: Reel Newbie on February 20, 2019, 07:49:14 PM
Oooh, I'm looking for recommendations here too, at the moment using a pursuit 6000 off Pacifica. Just got a nice jigmaster and thinking of using that with a static mag for snares. Don't think my squidder is up for the task, casting upwards of a pound of lead and bait as far as towards the horizon. Also trying to see what line I should use on the conventionals, is 30 pound mono enough? Using 40 pound power pro on my reel tight now.
We are on the same boat. I too have a squidder and jigmaster but but don't want to abuse them on the snares and sand. 30lb mono seems a little heavy. I'd imagine 20 or 25 would be enough.
Quote from: Reel Newbie on February 20, 2019, 07:49:14 PM
Oooh, I'm looking for recommendations here too, at the moment using a pursuit 6000 off Pacifica. Just got a nice jigmaster and thinking of using that with a static mag for snares. Don't think my squidder is up for the task, casting upwards of a pound of lead and bait as far as towards the horizon. Also trying to see what line I should use on the conventionals, is 30 pound mono enough? Using 40 pound power pro on my reel tight now.
jiggy has new 20lb on it; you may wish to go 25. in either case put 15ft shock leader of 50-60lb mono for casting lead.
I would be grateful is some one could explain what
" Crab Snaring" is... Jeff
I think a jigmaster would be fine for crab snaring with 30# of line. Casting 8-16 oz weights plus bait will take a toll on the rod more than the reel. Out of curiosity, what rods are you casting with?
For me, casting a jigmaster, May max lead weight was 6oz plus bait. Anything highher I used a 113H. Now you could use a yellow tail special because line capacity is not so important.
Jeff, crab snares are a way to catch crab. See https://youtu.be/HKKmM5_aqnk to give you an idea.
Quote from: Bryan Young on February 21, 2019, 05:33:05 AM
I think a jigmaster would be fine for crab snaring with 30# of line. Casting 8-16 oz weights plus bait will take a toll on the rod more than the reel. Out of curiosity, what rods are you casting with?
For me, casting a jigmaster, May max lead weight was 6oz plus bait. Anything highher I used a 113H. Now you could use a yellow tail special because line capacity is not so important.
Jeff, crab snares are a way to catch crab. See https://youtu.be/HKKmM5_aqnk to give you an idea.
Right now I'm using 11' heavy rods. Old ugly stik and Garcia rods. Nothing fancy for crabbing.
Do you have any experience with the 525 mag or Daiwa sl-sh?
Sorry to but in, but I had no idea there was such a thing.
I can't tell you how many times my bait has been crabbed out.
I need to try this on the Blue crabs in Florida.
Then use them for bait. Bull reds love to eat them.
Can you buy a snare premade? At lest just the little box part.
It looks pretty intricate.
I would just upgrade to a higher quality spinner.
I have a battle 2 8000, but any big spinner I think would work better for casting.
Zebco Cabo or Boca come to mind.
If you are hell bent on a conventional, you can't go wrong with a 113H.
There are also the older Daiwa sealines that might come in handy here for their price point.
Quote from: Jkjhung on February 21, 2019, 05:47:35 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on February 21, 2019, 05:33:05 AM
I think a jigmaster would be fine for crab snaring with 30# of line. Casting 8-16 oz weights plus bait will take a toll on the rod more than the reel. Out of curiosity, what rods are you casting with?
For me, casting a jigmaster, May max lead weight was 6oz plus bait. Anything highher I used a 113H. Now you could use a yellow tail special because line capacity is not so important.
Jeff, crab snares are a way to catch crab. See https://youtu.be/HKKmM5_aqnk to give you an idea.
Right now I'm using 11' heavy rods. Old ugly stik and Garcia rods. Nothing fancy for crabbing.
Do you have any experience with the 525 mag or Daiwa sl-sh?
No experience with the 525. I think the slosh for casting weight greater than 6 oz would be too much for a slosh 20/30.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 21, 2019, 06:04:47 AM
Sorry to but in, but I had no idea there was such a thing.
I can't tell you how many times my bait has been crabbed out.
I need to try this on the Blue crabs in Florida.
Then use them for bait. Bull reds love to eat them.
Can you buy a snare premade? At lest just the little box part.
It looks pretty intricate.
I would just upgrade to a higher quality spinner.
I have a battle 2 8000, but any big spinner I think would work better for casting.
Zebco Cabo or Boca come to mind.
If you are hell bent on a conventional, you can't go wrong with a 113H.
There are also the older Daiwa sealines that might come in handy here for their price point.
Yes you can buy them premade. Check out the Crab Slayer Snare. I think it's the best design so far.
Casting 8 and bait and winching 8, bait, and crabs is pretty hard on spinning gear. I was using a battle 6k so I was a little under gunned.
Most people generally stay away from premade big box store snares, Danielsons, willapua , etc., atleast from my experiences. Most people buy from small tackle shops for around $10 or make their own. Here's a tutorial from a California pier fishing forum: https://www.pierfishing.com/msgboard/index.php?threads/snares.468/ (https://www.pierfishing.com/msgboard/index.php?threads/snares.468/) .I think that crab snares are might not be allowed on the east coast, they're not even allowed in SoCal.
why use an old reel that swallows line between spool and frame like a jigmaster or squidder when there are so many others out there that does not have this problem? I was so glad when I got rid of mine. I picked up a Penn 535 for a bargain a while later and was super excited about it, after using it 3 times I got rid of it, same problem, hammer a cast and the slightest of loops that form it swallows the line. Penn, Daiwa, Shimano, Fin Nor etc have so many other options that are a pleasure to use.
Can't help thinking how that device would snare the bottom if you tried it somewhere other then on pristine sandy bottoms. :o
Places where I fish your hook, swivel and sinker gets stuck nearly every time.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 21, 2019, 06:04:47 AM
Sorry to but in, but I had no idea there was such a thing.
I can't tell you how many times my bait has been crabbed out.
I need to try this on the Blue crabs in Florida.
Then use them for bait. Bull reds love to eat them.
Can you buy a snare premade? At lest just the little box part.
It looks pretty intricate.
I would just upgrade to a higher quality spinner.
I have a battle 2 8000, but any big spinner I think would work better for casting.
Zebco Cabo or Boca come to mind.
If you are hell bent on a conventional, you can't go wrong with a 113H.
There are also the older Daiwa sealines that might come in handy here for their price point.
I think you would probably have to snap the claws off of a Blue crab to untangle them from the snares as they are a lot more aggressive than the crabs in the video. If you are using them for bait anyway then that wouldn't be a problem.
Personally, I have always had a hard time using Crabs and/or Lobsters for bait for a fish that I can't legally harvest (out of slot size). I'd rather eat the bait.
Quote from: CapeFish on February 21, 2019, 10:39:14 AM
why use an old reel that swallows line between spool and frame like a jigmaster or squidder when there are so many others out there that does not have this problem? I was so glad when I got rid of mine. I picked up a Penn 535 for a bargain a while later and was super excited about it, after using it 3 times I got rid of it, same problem, hammer a cast and the slightest of loops that form it swallows the line. Penn, Daiwa, Shimano, Fin Nor etc have so many other options that are a pleasure to use.
Which newer reels would you recommend?
A Penn Fathom, Squall, Shimano 20/40 or Speedmaster if you can get one, Daiwa Saltist, SL50, SL30, The grandwave series, they all good. Even the Fin Nor Lethals are very decent. Doesn't look like you need anything with serious drag or power to reel in crabs? Fascinating fishing by the way, my son mustn't see this because that's what I will be doing from one of our sandy beaches then this weekend and made to eat sand crabs!
Looks to me like you ned decent retrieve with medium drag. This may actually be a place where he 149 wuld shine.
The Man
I have lots of blue crabs in the local beaches but I havent had time to build me a crab snaring box yet.
my intended rod to use is a 11ft jarvis walker tuff tip glass rod that could handle 8oz or more with no problem and a sealine-X 40HV with 25# mono or a saltist 20H with 50# braid and long leader of 30#mono and probably an abu 7000 since it cast really nice.
Quote from: Cor on February 21, 2019, 11:44:15 AM
Can't help thinking how that device would snare the bottom if you tried it somewhere other then on pristine sandy bottoms. :o
Places where I fish your hook, swivel and sinker gets stuck nearly every time.
These snares are targeting crabs of the Cancer genus. The principle target is the Market Dungeness crab (C. magister), found in sandy areas. The Rock crab are also found in the sandy areas, but usually close to structure. Rock crab are more reddish with black tipped claws and legs.
The Market Dungeness crab are desirable, and highly regulated with restrictive size limits, bag limits, and closed areas and closed seasons. Other crabs have larger bag limits, no or smaller size limits, and no seasonal closures.
Thanks for that Link Reel Newb. I had to register to see it, but I know I can build that. I already have all that stuff except for the welded hardware cloth.
Just checked the regs and it is legal in Florida as long as they are blue crab, which is exactly what I'm after.
It just looks like fun. Those Blues are very mean. I just have to be careful that they don't latch on to me.
I'm not looking to Harvest any fish. I just love the sport of catching them. There is always the option of some blue crab claws for dinner!
Not much meat in the claws Daron, it's all in the body meat.My favorite way to eat them is in Maryland Blue Crab cakes. Down here in FL. they taste like $#*^#$. Not the crabs but the way they are prepared.
Just a suggestion, shark hunter, maybe you should try to use about 100 lb or so mono to tie the snares instead of weed whacked line. It seems like it might be too stiff for smaller blue crabs. In the spirit of crab snaring, you might have some luck with a crab hawk or another brand of castable folding nets for blue crabs.
I'm going to buy one off ebay to use as a model.
I have pretty much everything to do it except that heavy welded hardware cloth.
I have used hardware cloth many times to keep those damn chipmunks out of my drain tile, but I can't find that heavy stuff around here.
This is something I want to do just for fun.
I've spent many a long night on the beach waiting for Jaws.
This could be something to pass the time and maybe a crab feast.
Not sure where you reside, But Blue crabs get pretty big. I've caught them in a shell catcher that were at least 8" wide.
They are some mean Hombre's when you drop them on the beach. Claws up!