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Title: Newell 200 parts source or substitute
Post by: captquint99 on August 06, 2019, 01:12:32 PM
Hello all,

  I just serviced my 229 and discovered a common occurrence, the washers by the star are cracked. I need a source or part substitute for these washers. Parts 3-16, 3-18, 3-142. Thanks
Title: Re: Newell 200 parts source or substitute
Post by: Newell Nut on August 06, 2019, 01:55:25 PM
Go to ebay and do a Newell Washer search and you will see the 3-16 and 3-18. The 3-142 can be tossed in the trash and not replaced. It serves no purpose except to take up space between the handle and star. I may have some in a drawer but you really don't need it.

The 3-16 and 3-18 fit all Newells so don't worry about a listing on ebay for 400 series or anything else.

Dwight
Title: Re: Newell 200 parts source or substitute
Post by: captquint99 on August 07, 2019, 02:59:02 AM
Thank you for the quick reply. BTW I just opened up another S229 that was purchased in 2003 (I know this because the receipt is in the box) and there are washers on top of the drag stack that don't match the schematic. The washers appear to be wavy tension washers. Do you have any information on Newell using different washers on reels that are not indicated on the schematic?
Title: Re: Newell 200 parts source or substitute
Post by: Swami805 on August 07, 2019, 12:47:50 PM
It's not uncommon to see variations in those stacks from the schematic especially with S series. Those came with different side plates ,bearing caps,screws and what have you. If it was working put it back together the way it was, the S series schematic you're looking at is likely different than the S series you're working on
Title: Re: Newell 200 parts source or substitute
Post by: Newell Nut on August 07, 2019, 12:51:52 PM
The wavy washers were on the P series on either side of the Aluminum star. Wavy washers on an another model were added by a hobby guy. I use a small diameter wavy washer from McMaster Carr which is very helpful in producing a slower ramp up in drag pressure and the number used depends on the amount of space between the 3-18 and the star. Newell used a variety of the plastic stars over the years and they varied in thickness. I mainly use the wavy washers with metal stars.
The purpose of the wavy washer is to prevent the flat metal star from hitting the side plate when increasing drag pressure. The plastic stars have a hub to take up space and keep the star from hitting the side plate. When a drag gets weak the hub bumps the side plate, which is another problem.

Dwight
Title: Re: Newell 200 parts source or substitute
Post by: Newell Nut on August 07, 2019, 12:55:32 PM
Newell also used a 3-18 flat washer and some were concave like a spring washer and has the same number. They both work but I prefer the flat ones with the little wavy washer that I use.