Hi Alan,
i was spooling my new makaira with 100
# spiderwire and tying on to the spool pin with a uni knot and as i was tightening the knot the pin pulled right out!
I know that you may have an inside line there, so can you suggest a contact name?
Reguards from NJ!
talk to any of the okuma guys, 800-466-5862, but i actually never use the pin. i use a layer of black electrical tape or flex wrap around the arbor, the run the line 3-5 times around and cinch it down with a 5 turn uni knot. that should hold. alan
Hey Alan: I get how you rig up. However, I believe the real issue is that the Okuma Makaira is an expensive reel. So if the manufacturer makes a spool with a pin, it should work and not pull out. That is sloppy quality control or sloppy manufacturing. Okuma should replace the reel no questions asked. Dominick
agreed, the pin should not pull out ........
Ok Guys, so i spoke with Ron at OKUMA at the suggestion of Mark Smith at Charkbait where i bought the reel, and we will see how this pans out. The pin concept is not new older Penns had them and i have never had a problem tieing off on those. My first impression of this pin was that it was very small, and i was horrified when it broke off upon cinching down the UNI(100# stealth).
I'll keep you posted!
Although this shouldn't happen I have had the same thing happen on an Okuma Cedros 10S. My concern with the problem was water working thorough the hole into the spool over time, or corrosion starting at this point. Still love the reels even with this problem. On the Okumas I recently returned from Fiji and the rubberised black handle had gone soft and spongy on my Makaira 15 so I sent to the NZ agent to have a look at. They said they weren't happy with the high speed gear so replaced the reel. With customer service like that I will keep buying them
well, yeah, but i would still not use the pin.
Dont use the pin.
Quote from: Pescachaser on November 19, 2011, 08:26:26 PM
Hey Alan: I get how you rig up. However, I believe the real issue is that the Okuma Makaira is an expensive reel. So if the manufacturer makes a spool with a pin, it should work and not pull out. That is sloppy quality control or sloppy manufacturing. Okuma should replace the reel no questions asked. Dominick
I'm with you Dominick, you're absolutely right.
Quote from: intili on November 19, 2011, 03:12:53 AM
Hi Alan,
i was spooling my new makaira with 100
# spiderwire and tying on to the spool pin with a uni knot and as i was tightening the knot the pin pulled right out!
I know that you may have an inside line there, so can you suggest a contact name?
Reguards from NJ!
I hope you have better service from Okuma US than I had from their UK people. They asked what the faults were saying they would inform their engineers. Never had a reply to three subsequent emails I sent. Would not recommend Okuma to anyone on this side of the pond. Poor design, never had a Penn spool pin pull out, but THEN they were not made in China! ;)
Quote from: Irish Jigger on November 23, 2011, 03:17:56 PM
I hope you have better service from Okuma US than I had from their UK people. They asked what the faults were saying they would inform their engineers. Never had a reply to three subsequent emails I sent. Would not recommend Okuma to anyone on this side of the pond. Poor design, never had a Penn spool pin pull out, but THEN they were not made in China! ;)
;D ;D
Since it was my reel that the pin pulled out on, i called Ron at okuma, I expressed my opinion that the pin should be capable of holding back the force of tightening a knot by hand, which it was not, and i am by no means superman! He agrees and I await his response. For the capability and cost of the reel i expect more, we shall see!
so, let's says that you have the misfortune of hooking up on a submarine that is passing by. the line is going to pull out and your drag will not stop it. before you get to the bottom of the spool, grab a pair of pliers or wire cutters and jam the soft neoprene handle up against the spool to lock it down. that way the leader will break and you will get all of your expensive spectra back. but if you are not fast enough, then the line will get down to the arbor it will break a split second later. the questions is, will it break at the hook end or the reel end.
Quote from: alantani on November 24, 2011, 12:20:48 AM
if you are not fast enough, then the line will get down to the arbor it will break a split second later. the questions is, will it break at the hook end or the reel end.
I seriously contemplated this question. Opened a second bottle of wine instead ::). Dominick
Good man Dominick - a tool for the contemplative mind... ;)
Salute! Dominick.
Hello guys
I just received my new Makaira 10 II, and the first thing I noticed was how tiny the line pin is, and that it is mis-installed (bent sideways).
#1 I do not believe this line pin is strong enough for #50lb spectra
#2 Embarrassing that they don't have better inspection of their reels since Okuma claims the Makaira to be an egineering masterpiece. Even if their are workarounds with mono backing or gaffa tape I still believe a reel this expensive should do better.
Apart from that the reel seems really nice though....
/Richard
go with a single wrap of flex tape around the arbor, then 3-5 wraps of spectra over the flex tape, then a 5 turn uni knot and spool your spectra on so that it is vein popping tight. do not attach the line to the pin.
OK guys! I posted about my 15 2 speed pin breaking off, see above post. I spoke to Ron at Okuma, and he said that was first he heard about pins breaking, and they sent me a brand new spool no questions asked, I need to install it. I will reattempt to tie off my 100# spectra to the new spool. I firmly believe that the pins(albeit very small) should be useable, why are they there? If we dont all use them and see if they are up to the task, how can OKUMA(who appear to be very customer service driven)react to this issue. I have many old penn reels and i tied off to all their pins without issue. The pin is there for a reason!
I personally remove all of my pins as I have found it can bind with the line. For this reason, Okuma recessed it so that line laying on the spoll will not bind with the pin. I guess I've gotten used to not using a pin and leave it at that. It's just what I do.