A customer of mine has a 6/0 Senator. He asked me were there any upgrades to help get a little more max drag.
I upgrade small bait casters and spinners with Dawn's Smooth Drags all the time. He asked about extra washers,
but told him there was a certain tolerance anymore would bind the reel. I have seen the stainless double dogged bridge
and the mention of stainless main gear and sleeve. Need the education to pass along to others. Thanx
If the reel has 3 thick asbestos drag washers it can be upgraded to 5 thinner Penn carbon fiber drag washers. That can be further upgraded to a 7+1 drag kit that uses thinner metal washers. The ultimate set up is a 5 eared washer set up that either uses an insert into your present gear or a special ss set of gears that are machined for the eared washers. There is no double dog bridge yet available for the 114. Do you have the 114 6/0 or 114h 6/0? They each use different drags. The SS gear sleeve & SS dog are heavy duty setups when using drags stronger then the factory setup. Rudy
I have been trying to upgrade my Penn 114H + 114HL by swapping out the under-the-main-gear-fibre washer for a ht100 carbon equivalent. I contacted Dawn over a t Smooothdrag and she said that she has the part. I can buy them as singles if I need. I would buy the whole 7+1 Carbontex set and get the stainless set of years if I was starting from scratch. It is a more affordable option to a reel that already has significant line capacity. Turns out that there is no e-commerce page that I can navigate to. She just sends me an emaiil with a PayPal connection after I call or email or mail h e r my order.
Andrew
Quote from: afj516 on June 26, 2021, 05:49:38 PM
I have been trying to upgrade my Penn 114H + 114HL by swapping out the under-the-main-gear-fibre washer for a ht100 carbon equivalent. I contacted Dawn over a t Smooothdrag and she said that she has the part. I can buy them as singles if I need. I would buy the whole 7+1 Carbontex set and get the stainless set of years if I was starting from scratch. It is a more affordable option to a reel that already has significant line capacity. Turns out that there is no e-commerce page that I can navigate to. She just sends me an emaiil with a PayPal connection after I call or email or mail h e r my order.
Andrew
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That's the way I buy stuff from her . Just pay it and she will ship it no prob. Nothin fishy...lol
If you don't have a pay pal account might be a problem but you can use your CC on paypal if needed .
I don't know that swapping out the washer under the gear will help much since there isn't much surface on the ar ratchet gear ,might help a little. I'd buy that 7+1 and be done with it. A bit more than you might use but much smoother
Quote from: Swami805 on June 26, 2021, 07:26:16 PM
I don't know that swapping out the washer under the gear will help much since there isn't much surface on the ar ratchet gear ,might help a little. I'd buy that 7+1 and be done with it. A bit more than you might use but much smoother
Yep the best way is what Swami is telling you .
But if you are just trying to keep the worn drags you have from bottoming out with the Star then putting a Regular Thick disc on the Bottom instead of the thin one it will give you more height but that's it not really any more Friction to speak of.
Ill keep that thick fibre washer fix in mind if I come to need it, but the 1 in 7+1 is actually that very washers carbon equivalent. I just upgraded my Daiwa 50H with an HT100 washer under the main gear and it has increased the drag significantly.
Any tips for seating/buttoning down a freshly installed drag stack?
The usual dogma here is to put a slippery Delrin washer under the gear for smoothness and thinner washers inside the gear for more drag.
Then why and where +1?
Quote from: afj516 on June 27, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Then why and where +1?
Because the delrin washer gives smoother performance. Put the +1 in your spare parts box. ;D
Yup! ⬆
Also a delrin washer under the star will help to turn the star down when you have a fish on. good luck, cheers Don.