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Title: Penn 113S
Post by: john2244 on December 15, 2011, 09:05:45 PM
I recently saw a Penn box labeled "113 S".  I have seen 113 and 113H but never 113S.  Does anyone have info regarding this reel ??
Thanks,
John
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: redsetta on December 15, 2011, 10:09:29 PM
G'day John,
It may be one of the 113 wire-lining 'specials', similar to the HSP.
Rob or Sal might have a better idea though.
Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: Norcal Pescador on December 16, 2011, 02:45:10 AM
Maybe an anniversary "S"pecial like the 500-S. ??? ???

Dom, Sal?
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: john2244 on December 17, 2011, 12:25:09 AM
I just purchased 2 of these Penn 113 S reels.  It looks like a normal Penn 4/0 to me with black side plates. The side plate reads Penn Senator 4/0, it is the box that reads 113S 4/0.  List price on the box is $27.50 and it was marked down to $16.50.
The reels are NEW IN THE BOX with a Catalog No. 22, lube, and factory tissue wrapping. The box is a dark green color.  I am guessing these reels may date back into the 60's or 70's.  I will post some pics when I figure out how to do so.  Still looking for info regarding what the "S" is all about.
Thanks for your help.
John


Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: wcarah on December 17, 2011, 01:19:04 AM
I am inclined to believe the "S" designation relates to the spool construction.  On e-bay there is a cast bronze spool for a Penn 4/0 reel for sale.  The part number is 29M-113S.  I've attached a photo.
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: john2244 on December 17, 2011, 01:35:56 AM
Wcarah,

Thank you, I am sure you are right.

John

Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: alantani on December 17, 2011, 05:27:31 AM
phew!  these spools are $73.50 at mysticparts.com!


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Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: day0ne on December 17, 2011, 05:55:34 AM
I was on an electric reel site and they stated that a 113S held 50 yds more line than a 113H or HL. Beats me
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: john2244 on December 20, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
For information here is a pic of the Penn 113 S box.  This is a Penn 113 4/0 reel with black side plates and a brass/chrome spool. Does anyone have an idea as to the age of these reels ???
John


(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff515/johnw224/DSCF0040.jpg)
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: Alto Mare on December 20, 2011, 11:00:37 AM
Those are 25th anniversary boxes, making those reels as old as me ;D, almost 53 years old. the boxes where introduced in the 50's. That's also when Penn replaced the 3-piece spool with a solid cast-metal spool
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: Normslanding on December 20, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
Correct "S" for solid. We always tried to get The solid spool for any reel we would put a transmission on. When having a big fish on a plastic spool they blew up from line pressure. Fishing a tight drag with 60 to 80lb. the three piece metal spool would give out. The silver solder would not hold. In the sixty's the deep water Rockcod fishing had the same problem. The 9/0, 10/0,and 12/0 reels started out with three piece spools. They then went to the solid brass spool. The disadvantage was castability. Soon Newell changed that as aluminum was the way to go.
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: Bryan Young on December 20, 2011, 12:42:14 PM
Very nice reels.  Wow, you got a deal.  $16.50 each?  Selling?  I'd pay you mfg. listed price of $27.50 for each reel.  lol

I wonder what does "NON-STRIP GEARS" implied in the marketing of these reels.

Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: Alto Mare on December 20, 2011, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: Normslanding on December 20, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
Correct "S" for solid. We always tried to get The solid spool for any reel we would put a transmission on. When having a big fish on a plastic spool they blew up from line pressure. Fishing a tight drag with 60 to 80lb. the three piece metal spool would give out. The silver solder would not hold. In the sixty's the deep water Rockcod fishing had the same problem. The 9/0, 10/0,and 12/0 reels started out with three piece spools. They then went to the solid brass spool. The disadvantage was castability. Soon Newell changed that as aluminum was the way to go.
Yep! The coplete line of Senators started with the 3-piece spool, from the 110 to the 118 ( 1/0 to 16/0 ).
Some of the old fashioned fishermen here in the NE still like to use these one-piece cast spools.... I'm one of them.
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: john2244 on December 20, 2011, 02:27:04 PM
Bryan,

I think they sold for $16.50 when they were new, I paid $50.00 each for them a few days ago.

John

Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: Bryan Young on December 20, 2011, 02:44:52 PM
Wow, considering the boxes and condition of the reels, that's a great deal.
Title: Re: Penn 113S
Post by: broadway on December 21, 2011, 03:08:28 PM
The "S" stands for solid or single... meaning not a three piece spool.  I prefer to collect the 3 piece spool senators, but I only fish with the single spool senators.
Nice deal on some sweet reels,
Dom