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General Maintenance Tips => Smoothdrag.com => Topic started by: AllenW on December 17, 2011, 01:36:16 PM

Title: To many washers or?
Post by: AllenW on December 17, 2011, 01:36:16 PM
I ordered a some drag washers from SmoothDrag and the kit for the 6500C (reel number 84-2   86) has two washers in it, one larger one that I find on the reel and one smaller one, I have the reel apart and can not find where it goes???

I'm assuming some of the 6500 reels use two washers but not mine?

Great service btw, thanks.

Al
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Keta on December 17, 2011, 04:18:58 PM
My ABU reels all have more washers but I'd guess the small one goes under the main gear.
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Nessie Hunter on December 17, 2011, 05:31:23 PM
I saw your picture on the other thread....

Looks like the old UNder MAin Gear (smaller) Drag washer is stuck to bottom of Main Gear?

Give it a look and see, May have to pry it off and clean the gear up.... 
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: AllenW on December 17, 2011, 06:03:04 PM
Thanks, hate to keep asking questions, but do appreciate the responses.

Here's a set of pictures on what I have.

Looks like both the stock washers are larger, and the smaller one from Smooth has a slightly smaller center hole than what would fit on the gear on either side.

Al
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Keta on December 17, 2011, 06:48:21 PM

Just a semi educated guess but I'd say the narrow one is for an older reel like my 5000c.  Leave the wide one in like in the photo below, put the small one under the main gear, re assemble the reel and see if your drag is adequate.


(http://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3178.0;attach=1133;image)
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Paleoreelist on December 17, 2011, 07:45:25 PM
Yup your right Keta.
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: AllenW on December 18, 2011, 12:29:34 AM
OK, looks like you want me to take the smaller of the two Smooth washers and place where the larger one went in the picture below?

Then leave the washer in the other side and put the larger smooth washer away for someday down the road?  :)
Thanks much.
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Keta on December 18, 2011, 03:56:40 AM
The drag washer in the gear is the proper washer, the smaller washer on the bottom right goes under the main gear and the bottom left washer is not needed.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/untitled-2.jpg)
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: AllenW on December 18, 2011, 02:00:21 PM
Thanks all, I'm a little confused as to why when there were two larger washers needed, they send one large and one small,  and I don't use the large one they sent and reuse one of the originals?

Add the smaller one needs it's inner hole enlarged to fit, I think I'll just install the original washers and let it go at that.

Al
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Keta on December 18, 2011, 06:34:39 PM
I saw the foot numbers in your other thread. Ignore my last post, you weren't the only one confused here.

Here is the schematic  for your reel (6500C 84-2),
http://www.abugarcia.com/sites/default/files/schematics/6500C%2084-2.PDF (http://www.abugarcia.com/sites/default/files/schematics/6500C%2084-2.PDF)

The washer on the lower left goes under the main gear, the washer in the main gear is right and the small washer lower right gets put away for later when working on a newer reel.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/untitled-4.jpg)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/gear.jpg)
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: alantani on December 18, 2011, 06:38:24 PM
that's it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Dominick on December 18, 2011, 06:39:24 PM
Hey Lee:  you just like making those red X's.  ;D
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Keta on December 18, 2011, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: Pescachaser on December 18, 2011, 06:39:24 PM
Hey Lee:  you just like making those red X's.  ;D

Yup
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Paleoreelist on December 18, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
Would also fit older 79-**-** 6500c ,  but the other way around...I think?
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: redsetta on December 18, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
QuoteHey Lee:  you just like making those red X's.  ;D
Yup

;D ;D
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: AllenW on December 18, 2011, 09:42:43 PM
OK, whew! I think we're headed in the right direction now...maybe.. :)

Funny they would ship one washer I don't use, and not both the larger ones for both sides of the gear??

I also bought washers for two other reels and I'm hesitant to see what happens there.   :-\

Great service, but considering she asked me for the number under the foot, I'd guess I didn't get all the parts I needed?

Sounds like a email to them is needed.

Thanks all.
Al

ps...got the reel all back together, no extra parts and it seems to work well, this reel had a drag that was a bit sticky and that seems to be gone now, thanks all.



Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Keta on December 18, 2011, 11:39:51 PM
There is so many various drag configurations for ABU reels that the kits come with several washers.
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Dawn on December 19, 2011, 05:41:22 PM
Hi
Actually it's the wrong set...sorry  :-[

Keep the one large washer....that will go UNDER the main gear, I will mail you the larger one for inside the main gear.

Usually the set I sent you goes in 1987 and previous models, the one you have in your reel is usually for 87, 88, 89 models, but there are sometimes surprises
with these Abu reels.

Dawn

Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: AllenW on December 21, 2011, 02:15:47 AM
Thanks Dawn for straightening this and the 6600C5 question I had out, great customer service!

Does look like you could go nuts trying to keep all these changes straight.   ;D

Al
Title: Re: To many washers or?
Post by: Dawn on December 21, 2011, 08:36:15 PM
Thanks   ;D
You should get the other washer pretty quick.

Older Abu's can be pretty tricky....changing gearing but keeping the same model number.