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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: Tate on November 17, 2020, 02:08:25 AM

Title: Penn 109 & 209 Line guide assembly
Post by: Tate on November 17, 2020, 02:08:25 AM
Hello,

Does anyone happen to know if the Penn 109 part 46-109 and Penn 209 part 42-209 are the same?  The ruler measurement on pennparts sure looks like it.  I've got a few reels that might need this part.

Thanks.
Tate
Title: Re: Penn 109 & 209 Line guide assembly
Post by: oc1 on November 17, 2020, 03:40:28 AM
Quote from: Tate on November 17, 2020, 02:08:25 AM
Hello,

Does anyone happen to know if the Penn 109 part 46-109 and Penn 209 part 42-209 are the same?  The ruler measurement on pennparts sure looks like it.  I've got a few reels that might need this part.

Thanks.
Tate
A 209 is wider than a 109?  The 109 is the same width as the #9 though.
-ebenezer
Title: Re: Penn 109 & 209 Line guide assembly
Post by: mo65 on November 17, 2020, 01:01:20 PM
Quote from: oc1 on November 17, 2020, 03:40:28 AM
A 209 is wider than a 109?  

  Yes...the 209 is wider than the 109/peerless 9.
Title: Re: Penn 109 & 209 Line guide assembly
Post by: foakes on November 17, 2020, 03:45:40 PM
Penn's Level-Wind vintage series reels use different line guides — as well as different worm gears.

Part 46 is the wire line guide — and while they may look the same in a photo — they are different and specific to their reel.

9, 109, 209, 309 — plus LH versions.

It is important to order the exact part number for each reel from a reliable Penn Parts dealer such as Mystic Parts.

Lots of times, ebay amateur sellers just don't know the differences — and a wrong part is delivered and then delayed until the transaction is straightened out.

Part 42 is the worm gear — and as stated previously in this post — the widths of the reels are different — plus the connection ends and rod ends are different.

The bend angle & worm-collar are different on each model reel — although, they could appear close to the same.  

But they will not work unless they are the correct part.

I suggest just ordering what you need from Mystic for each reel.

Up where we live in the Sierra Nevadas — the 9 & 209 are used extensively for lead core trolling.  The worm, pawl, line guide, as well as the nylon idler gear — are all commonly replaced items due to the lateral stress on the LW system caused by the heavier line and the depth and stress on the LW system.

Great reels!

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Penn 109 & 209 Line guide assembly
Post by: reelrepair123 on November 17, 2020, 11:07:10 PM
i found the 9 and 109 line guides are different, if you look at the line guide straight on, the guide has a collar that rides on the worm gear, one protrudes to the left side, one protrudes to the right, when cranking the reel, if you have them mixed up, the reel will bind when the guide goes to the end by the chrome ring on the sideplate, sorry i'm not sure which is which, i have it written down outside.    harryk