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Title: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2020, 06:09:01 PM
File this under not actually that big of a deal but still annoying.

I put 2 different color braid on my reel. I like to do that sometimes so I'll know if I'm already half way spooled out. Dumb, I know, but it's a thing I sometimes do.

Well this time I put green power pro under yellow yo-zuri braid. And when I rinsed it the first time the yellow got a greenish tint. When i rinsed a second time, it got even greener. Not the biggest deal in the world but it didn't happen very evenly and now it just looks moldy. And i hate it.

Is the answer to just keep rinsing and eventually all the excess green will run off, or am I just gonna have a moldy looking spool until i change the line?
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: alantani on December 29, 2020, 06:15:49 PM
it happens with almost all braids.   :-\
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: SteveL on December 29, 2020, 06:52:37 PM
That's why I use white undyed braid whenever possible.  If I need to mark it,  a small mark in sharpie does the trick and usually doesn't bleed.  Mostly comes off with rubbing alcohol if needed.

ISpikeit.com  (The same people who make the chartreuse scented dies for soft plastics) has markers for braid now:

https://www.ispikeit.com/product/984/braided-line-markers
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on December 29, 2020, 09:11:17 PM
It is the nature of all pe braid - polyethylene fibre - to not hold dye very well. Whether it's Dyneema or Spectra doesn't make any difference - it will fade/leach colour. PE fibre is naturally a white opaque fibre.
I remember lure fishing for barramundi in Asia (X years ago ::)) with red power pro braid - It took days to get rid of that dye on my thumb - I now use just plain white. If I need coloured length indicators I use a Sharpie, KISS.
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: Hardy Boy on December 29, 2020, 09:20:59 PM
Power pro bleeds a lot but nothing compared to the Tuff line yellow ................... that spays all over your reel when its new.


Cheers:

Todd
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: philaroman on December 29, 2020, 09:31:23 PM
moldy-looking?  mottled?  and there's green involved?

that's camo, Man...  costs extra ;D
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: oldmanjoe on December 29, 2020, 10:38:36 PM
  If you want different colors on your line , try this style line ..        https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075TYRMQL/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?psc=1&smid=A37XTHX7ZK0A3P&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyNU9VR0p
           ;D  I just had to do it  ;D
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: oc1 on December 29, 2020, 11:30:43 PM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on December 29, 2020, 09:11:17 PM
It is the nature of all pe braid - polyethylene fibre - to not hold dye very well. Whether it's Dyneema or Spectra doesn't make any difference - it will fade/leach colour. PE fibre is naturally a white opaque fibre.
Unlike nylon and dacron, Spectra/Dyneema fiber cannot be colored through and through without sacrificing a lot of strength and abrasion resistance.  So, the color just sits on top of the fiber where it can be easily worn off.  Nothing sticks to polyethylene.  I too thought about using the natural white color, but am worried about UV resistance.  The usual way to protect plastic from UV degradation is to add carbon black or other pigments.

I've haven't had color loss using TUF Line XP in "green".  Their idea of green looks more like a kaki color to me but, so far, it doesn't seem to change or make a mess of things.  The diameter of TUF Line looks a tad larger than Power Pro of the same lb. test.  Maybe it's just an illusion.  Measuring line diameter with a caliper is difficult for me because you can get a different result depending you much pressure you put on it and the flattening.

-steve
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: philaroman on December 29, 2020, 11:38:49 PM
seriously, white/uncoated is just as hi-vis as yellow & SOOOOOOO much less hassle

for a bit more L/UL stealth, had a great experience w/ old (pre-Shimano?) PP Ice, Blue

got a great deal on some 80/100-yd pony spools: 8# & 10# was about same;

5# was noticeably thinner & didn't handle as well -- possibly 3-strand, or just my clumsy fingers

initial "heavy bleeding" stage seemed shorter & less messy than reg. PP & other mid-price braid

then, pale-blue color held longer/better/more even -- plenty visible to me & stealthy-enough from fish perspective
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 30, 2020, 02:46:29 AM
Man I got a spool of multicolor J-braid coming in the mail, potentially tomorrow. This is gonna be a party. At least with that it's expected. I guess green under yellow shoulda been expected but I'm not always the brightest. ...But my spool is!

Yeah I went for it.
Title: Re: Bleeding braid dye
Post by: SteveL on December 30, 2020, 03:16:26 AM
On a tangent, the https://www.ispikeit.com link I mentioned above has a lot of neat stuff,  lure making, mold making, panfish lures.   Not just scents and dyes.