There is something about a cradle rod that i find eye appealing . I wanted one that was made for a smaller reel .
I was looking at a block of wood from a skid and though why not try to make one from wood . Made a few marks on the block , chucked it up spun a rough shape . I decided to use a Ocean City , bay city reel for this project .
Took the reel apart and used the trim rings to help lay out holes to mount it and set the center lines .
Did a little cutting on the table saw to hog out the spool hole and finish with a sanding drum .
I added a piece of mahogany on the bottom for strength , it was a little to thin there .
After a test fit i made a few more marks , i wanted to cut a little more closer to the reel .
I had some extra bars to replace the reel seat .
Now i just got to make stick for it .
You do such nice work Joe. I made a cradle out of fiberglass but it doesn't look so good.
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Nice Joe very interesting, thanks for posting, what length still are you thinking of using, looking forward to the end result, cheers Don.
Great job of turning !
Nice!
Thank you for the complements . I am looking for about 6-6/6 foot total length, will see what happens .
Steve I still like that rod you made and the bent butts... ??? What are we making next ? :D
Beautiful, unique, and creative; as usual.
My question, and this is about this style of handle in general, is how much strength is lost by not having the blank continue all the way through the handle? If it were a blade the term is 'full tang' and anything other than that condition is derided as a sign of lesser quality. Now Im not implying your creation is of lesser quality. I know you do good work. I'm just very curious about the loss of structural integrity from the blank not continuing through.
That's cooler than cool!
My 0.01 on blank thru handle: pistol grip rods were around for decades as the option for light bait casting. If you were to stay in period with the blank, and Joe is entirely likely to fab one from boo or wood as opposed to whippy glas of the time, I doubt one would have issue if staying under 20 or 15 lb mono (for shock absorbance). High speed wahoo trolling? No. pulling a vintage Bomber or Cisco for 'eyes or pike- certainly.
I say that having seen the amount of force to break a wooden butt that wasnt blank-thru, while trolling and hanging a snag with 36 lb lead core with heavy drag.
John nailed it .. pretty much the stick ended in the left hand and the right hand held the slip on handle .
This is a scaled down version for the bay . The stick will be a combination of bamboo and wood .
Mono and drag settings are key to keep this from breaking along with a flexible stick .
Pretty cool. I've never seen anything like that.
That will be a lot of fun to talk about on the boat, well done indeed. I really don't see any issues with strength, but if it was a concern for a larger application, laminating three boards together and then turning and some judicious application of fiberglass would make it bulletproof.
The Man
Ron raises a good point- what he just described is also known as a boat hull...plenty strong enough for a rod insert. I have something along those lines up my sleeve actually....we'll see how it goes when the parts arrive.
Nice, Joe!
Dude!!! Looks like you're continuing to have fun being creative. If I had the time, tools and most all, the know-how...
Quote from: thorhammer on March 05, 2021, 06:50:23 PM
Ron raises a good point- what he just described is also known as a boat hull...plenty strong enough for a rod insert. I have something along those lines up my sleeve actually....we'll see how it goes when the parts arrive.
You mean something like this?
https://devlinboat.com/kingfisher-33/
Sam and I talk often about him building me something big enough for Alison to be comfortable on. Probably just under 50 feet. I like what stitch and glue makes, but to much goop for me. I'm looking at starting a 14 foot Spira mini Panga for the local lakes. Nothing but wood, glue, screws and paint.
The Man
??? 50 foot stitch and glue ? i have done a bunch of kneel down racing boats with stitch and glues . 10 -12 foot long
Any thing after 16 foot i like real stringers and screws . I like to smash big waves .. I also like down east style boats now that the body got old .
thats some gorgeous stuff but above my pay grade....I like fully blown hulls; I have an Edgewater and a McKee.
Quote from: oldmanjoe on March 05, 2021, 10:23:42 PM
??? 50 foot stitch and glue ? i have done a bunch of kneel down racing boats with stitch and glues . 10 -12 foot long
Any thing after 16 foot i like real stringers and screws . I like to smash big waves .. I also like down east style boats now that the body got old .
Sam has been doing this for a long time. He has some amazing 50+ foot trawlers and several of his 60 foot class ultra rich designs have been done in Korea running at well over 30 kts. I like frame construction as a method, but stitch and glue is as strong as anything else when done by professionals.
A big one for us old guys:
https://devlinboat.com/oysta-62/
The Man
Read Sam's link......takes me back to reading Papa and Zane. No lever drags or braid allowed on that boat!!!! fantastic!
I am cashin in my Cans for one of these !
Wampus Cat, looks hard to fish off of!
Back to the cradle, I have a 180 I might try this on. I want to start vacuum bagging and this is a perfect first project.
Ronald Jones
I have one made in ply wood and two more in glue / clamp mode .
Maybe tomorrow i can straighten some boo for a lay up.
I got a little side tracked . I started to punch a hole in the grip for the stick , and started thinking that if i go to .800 ,i could sleeve it and use some other sticks already made . I was going to be too close .
I had another piece wood so i did the lay out and cut it up , making the grip thicker so i can sleeve it .
The sleeve is just a old reel seat with hood removed and shorten a little .
I will make a few more sticks with different actions
The smaller grip is at .600 hole size , i just need to find a sleeve for it to finish making a stick for it .
Great stuff Joe - really enjoying this one.
Thanks for taking us along.
Cheers, Justin
;D Part of a old wind chime tube was used for the smaller sleeve .600 for the smaller grip.
Shaped ,scraped and sanded two sticks today . Was also able to glue up pieces to make the spickets and cut them to size . I also started the bamboo glue up. Picture of the two ply wood sticks
A little update , Stained the handle and stick with cherry stain . Taped on some roller guides and load test .
Just finished wrapping thread
Dude! That is mad skills, old school cool!
;D It`s just something to do to keep the fingers nimble . I like to try different shapes and thickness on the sticks for the actions
Looks great Joe, thanks for showing us, plenty of good ideas there, cheers Don.
Good job on that rig !
:D A little of the old school and a little of the new school . So far it looks like it will work .
Look great Joe, but I though the spirell had to go the other way, so its turning the rod to the left as you placing pressure on the right side as your winding, but I am listening if I am wrong, cheers Don.
Good catch .... I did have the guide hanging on the left side just before i took the picture .
I kept looking at it and decided to put it on the right side . Agate guides are a little on the fragile side ., By putting it on the right side i can lay the rod down on the left side without worrying to much . ;D I `ll keep the debate going ,left verses right side . :)
From what I understand it depends on your dominant hand. You made that for a South Paw, THANKS!!
The Man
Quote from: Ron Jones on March 28, 2021, 10:30:44 PM
From what I understand it depends on your dominant hand. You made that for a South Paw, THANKS!!
The Man
??? Made for a South Paw , how so ?
I tied the guides on and doing more testing , i had to make a small change .
The reel was not full with line , about were it would be with line out fishing.
The line sat on top of my ring finger , and my finger was on top of a bead . A game of tug of war could be pain full .
So back on the lathe and cut off the two beads for finger clearance
Looking good ! Anxious to get a fishing report !
I am anxious to fish this cradle set up with two completely different sticks .
Although i can see the spiral being the winner already .
Great work! Love the progress and the willingness to go backwards a step t correct a deficiency, i.e. line cutting across your fingers. Bill
The fringe benefit of making it from scratch , i can change the prototype at any giving time .
It is kind of strange to make the reel with a very low center of gravity , only to put tall guides to make clearance for the line to get past the grip .
It`s play time for this old man , The what if .........