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Title: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: CaptKev on January 07, 2012, 01:24:10 AM
I'm still fishing a half dozen Salina SA65 for Albies here in the PNW.  I was wondering if Dawn has made a set of drag washers for these reels? If not, what the latest HT-100 washers I should be using?

I never thought I'd get so much use out of these reels! As long as parts are available, I'll keep fishing them. I was going to replace them this year, but now thinking I'll just change the handles to Alan's upgrades. I use them for castng swimbaits, but have used them for dropping iron on troll stops. Guessing these other Okuma models have the same washers in the same size based on my search of the site:
Avenger
Cedros
Epixor
Coronado
Salina
Eclipz
Travertine
Lexan
and probably more models

Kevin

Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: Bryan Young on January 07, 2012, 05:38:50 AM
 For the 65 series reels, it takes Three HT-100 #6-7000 and custom cut 34 X 57 mm carbontex drag washer.  I cannot recall which one was used but Dawn should be able to match something up given that these are the sizes.
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: CaptKev on January 07, 2012, 04:49:18 PM
Thanks Bryan!
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: Dawn on January 07, 2012, 05:47:26 PM
I have not been able to do Okuma drags, although i would love to.

I spent a day going through all their schematics getting the drag part numbers, called to make an order, and was told that I had to have
the reel to order, as they needed a number off each reel.  Obviously I don't own every reel.  I asked couldn't they go by part number and was
told no, and they can't just use the reel model either.
  If anyone knows how to get around this I'd like to know.  Or if you own the reels and have the special secret number  ;) and can order the drags, I can pay you for them if you can send them to me.  Maybe I can work up an inventory this way.

Dawn
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: alantani on January 07, 2012, 07:25:36 PM
stay tuned.  i send an e-mail to john bretza at okuma.  i am hoping this can pave the way.......

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hi, john.  dawn is the nice lady that owns smoothdrag.com.  she is very active on my board an has been very helpful with alot of different reels.  she had spoken to someone at okuma when she was trying to get drag parts.  she would like to make a line of aftermarket drag washers for the okuma reels that do not have carbon fiber.  the guys were not really able to help her.  i see this as a win/win situation for you and smoothdrag.com.  is this something that you could help with?  i think it would be great to see the older reels upgraded.  alan


Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: Bryan Young on January 07, 2012, 08:31:21 PM
Hi Dawn,

This is what we have so far.

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=1628.0.  I had only referenced HT-100s because that is what was available at the time.  I'll get you my reel info if John cannot help.

Bryan
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: CaptKev on January 08, 2012, 04:53:37 PM
Hi Dawn, I'll send you a spool and or reel if you like? I've got SA 40s and SA 65s. Let me know.
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: Dawn on January 09, 2012, 05:16:07 PM
Hi
Why don't we start with the exact reel model number and any numbers you find on it, I think they said it was on the reel foot, but I'm not sure, it was quite awhile back when I spoke to them.
Maybe if I have that info I can try to order some direct from them.

Dawn
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: Bryan Young on January 09, 2012, 07:48:23 PM
I'll get you my reel models and whatever number is on the reel tonight.
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: Dominick on January 09, 2012, 08:15:48 PM
Hi Dawn:  Got it on Sat.  thanks.  Dominick
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: CaptKev on January 10, 2012, 04:05:30 AM
Dawn, I'll be headed to the boat this weekend (6 hours away). I'll grab a 40 and 65 series reel for you. Address?

I saw Charkbait carries Okuma's Raw spin reels which advertise carbon fiber washers. I could not find a schematic online. Maybe Okuma has already read the almighty Alan Tani's gospel? ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: Dawn on January 13, 2012, 05:17:20 PM
Okuma says they have carbon fiber replacements for many of their reels, you might want to check with them.


Smooooth Drag
13312 Ranchero Rd Ste18 #267
Oak Hills, CA 92344

Dawn
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: bnz on January 14, 2012, 05:43:49 AM
I've bought the carbontex washers for my VSystem and Cedros spinning reels from Dawn before.  The VSystem and Cedros washer sizes are the same throughout the range so I would think a corresponding Salina would be no different.

For the V-55 and 55S Cedros I purchased the carbontex #70 (1) and #23 (3)
For the V-65 a TLD 20/25  65.60 x 19.95 and #23 (3)
For the V-40: 44mm OD, 16mm ID, .8 mm thick (1), 22.5mm OD, 8mm ID, .8mm thick (3)
V30:    40.5mm OD 21mm ID, .8mm thick , 22.5mm OD, 8mm ID, .8mm thick (3)
V20:  35mm OD, 20mm ID, .8mm thick, 21mm OD, 9mm ID, .8mm

I did have to cut some of these down to size to get them to fit properly.
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: inhotpursuit on January 14, 2012, 06:52:53 AM
Hi from Canada Dawn i have a few drag sizes that i believe you do not stock
Okuma Citrix baitcaster model Ci-254V and Ci-273V primary washer is 31mmx16mmx1mm i modified a #48
secondary washer is #6
Shimano scorpion DC baitcaster, primary washer 31mmx12mmx1mm modified #48 secondary washer is#26x1mm
Daiwa T31016HL-HW /T3 ballistic baitcaster,primary washer is already carbontex secondary washer is#26
US reels Supercaster Hibdon 810SX baitcaster, primary washer #40x1.25mm secondary washer is #11
US reels Supercaster sx230 sx240 spinning reels, washers are 3 x#8
spool bearings for upgrades are as follows
Okuma Citrix spool pinion 5x11x4 side bearing 3x10x4
Shimano scorpion DC spool bearings 2 each 3x10x4
US reels Hibdon 810SX bushing replacement under spool tension knob 3x8x4 pinion spool bearing is 5x11x4 and side bearing is 3x8x4
Daiwa T3 spool bearings are 5x11x4 pinion and 3x10x4 side bearing
Here are some photo's of the T3 drags you cannot see it in the picture because it is clear plastic but there is a washer in the centre of the rachet that holds the stock fibre washer in place,hope these are of help to you. Kenny


on the stock T3 drag one of the washers is just cheap fibre and held in place with a flimsy plastic washer
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af297/inhotpursuit55/SAM_0432.jpg)
the fibre washer was thrown out along with the plastic spacer and replaced with a #26 carbontex  then given a good coating of cals drag grease the result is a powerfull super smooth drag
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af297/inhotpursuit55/SAM_0433.jpg)

the okuma was given the same treatment and also has a super smooth and powerfull drag
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af297/inhotpursuit55/SAM_0429.jpg)

the scorpion has by far the larger rachet washer and drive gear, the drag surface area is a good 25% larger than the other two reels

(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af297/inhotpursuit55/SAM_0427-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: Dawn on January 14, 2012, 05:19:41 PM
Thank you Ken and BNZ!
Title: Re: Salina, Cedros spinner drag washers available yet?
Post by: inhotpursuit on January 14, 2012, 06:40:17 PM
Dawn i modified the pinion bearing size for the  us reels hibdon sx its 5x11x4 not 5x10x4