Reel Repair by Alan Tani

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Title: Strange looking washer
Post by: Alto Mare on January 09, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
Alan, I'm sure that you've seen it all...reels, that is ;D. Did you or anyone else ever come across anything like this washer?

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/Picture1871.jpg)
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Dominick on January 10, 2012, 03:23:51 AM
Hey look at our guy Sal.  Even his washers have dimples ;D.  Dominick
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Norcal Pescador on January 10, 2012, 04:30:08 PM
Run, Sal, run!! It's the dreaded "Pox" washer! ;D ;D

What did it come out of?
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Alto Mare on January 10, 2012, 05:13:01 PM
Rob, it came out of a 113H that had ss gears. these were the (3) thick washers  configuration, the opposite side of that washer is  smooth. I think that someone was looking for some serious drag on that reel :-\. I'm wondering if Alan has ever seen one..I never did.
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Bryan Young on January 10, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
Probably created less drag or jerky drag.
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Norcal Pescador on January 10, 2012, 07:02:27 PM
Looks like it would chew up the fiber washers. I would think a jerky drag once it made dents or grooves in the fiber. Very strange. ???
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: redsetta on January 10, 2012, 08:15:46 PM
QuoteRun, Sal, run!! It's the dreaded "Pox" washer!
Classic.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: alantani on January 10, 2012, 08:31:42 PM
ok, sal, you got me on this one.  i have NEVER seen one of these before!   ;D
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Alto Mare on January 11, 2012, 01:12:06 AM
Alan, since you never seen one it has to be unique.
Rob, the washers look great, no marks anywere these are the older thick washers. They did have some white grease all over them  that I never seen before. Also, the reel was spinning nice and smooth :-\. 
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: broadway on January 11, 2012, 06:05:04 AM
Sal,

    Does it look like the dimples were machine or hand hammered?  ... it looks hand done by the unorthodox staggering pattern.  Was it an original washer that someone modified? That washer (IMHO) wouldn't work as well due to the lack of surface area, (agree with Rob) would cause extra wear in specific areas, and also raise the height of your stack.  Would you be able to get a 5:1 stack with it in there? I think I'd change it out, but definitely hang on to it, or maybe test it out to see what might happen.
Dom
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Keta on January 11, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
How were they formed, is there corresponding indents on the back side like it was struck with a punch?  They don't look like spot welds.

What is the part number of the part I pointed to in the photo below?  That part and a second dog and I will have my double dog, 4:1, narrow 113H finished, thanks for the help and parts.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Parts.jpg)
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Alto Mare on January 11, 2012, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: Keta on January 11, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
How were they formed, is there corresponding indents on the back side like it was struck with a punch?  They don't look like spot welds.

What is the part number of the part I pointed to in the photo below?  That part and a second dog and I will have my double dog, 4:1, narrow 113H finished, thanks for the help and parts.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Parts.jpg)
Lee, I don't know on how they were formed, if you take a closer look it appears the washers were cut from a sheet.The back side is flush and you're right it doesn't look like a spot weld. No numbers on part that you're pointing to, this is a standard spacer that comes on the plates with easy access, like the plate I sent you. I'm glad that the SALEE (SAl & Lee) reel is complete, put it to work and give us the report. Later. Sal
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Alto Mare on January 11, 2012, 10:49:42 PM
Lee, I'm looking for the number on that spacer but can't find it. I'm pretty sure that the part number is 9-113H, you need to mention that the spacer  is for a reel with the easy access drag feature. If you're having a tough time spotting one, just let me know and I'll send you one of mine.
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Alto Mare on January 12, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Dom, I just realized that I didn't answer your questions. Yes the washer looks like it was machined and it doesn't appear to be an original washer that was modified. If this washer is used the same way as I found it, with the thick drags, I believe that it would actually work better and also that it would create more drag...Those older thick drags are idestructible. In the easy access drag plates, you would get away with 6 or 7 washers. The additional washers won't give you more drag but they could be used as spacers, the only problem you will have with these plates is that the main gear would rub if the washer under it is thick, I never had that problem. Dom, I think I hit the jackpot with this unique washer. Great ! Now I can really retire :-\
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: broadway on January 12, 2012, 04:42:38 PM
      Thanks for answering my questions.  Maybe you should go play the lotto because you are the only one to ever see one on this site (so far). We already knew you were one in a million, but now even your washers are! ;D
I am anticipating a max drag report on that crazy looking washer ;)
PS- I have had that rubbing problem before with the old plates, but I wound up keeping those reels with the original drags and washers. 
Dom

Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Dominick on January 12, 2012, 05:06:41 PM
Sal:  I wondered over the dimpled washer.  Actually I believe that it has a purpose.  I bet that this was an experimental washer.  Consider this: The underside of the dimpled washer is machined flat (or formed flat).  This is the working side of the washer and would be the side that presses on the drag material.  During a run the drag system will heat up.  The dimpled side would allow for heat dissipation by letting air circulate around the other side of the washer.  What do you think? Dominick
Title: Re: Strange looking washer
Post by: Alto Mare on January 12, 2012, 10:10:58 PM
Dominick, that does make sense to me. Typical lawyer, digging in for the right answer ;D.