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Title: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 11, 2022, 02:34:44 PM
Hi
Another new challenge. Its a penn 4300ss with the newer anti reverse(see picture's). All parts seem to be there. The spring under rachet seems to sit. It just doesn't snap back with the external control. Replace what parts?? I got this reel from a flea market, so no history if all right parts are on this section. Reel winds well except no anti reverse
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 11, 2022, 03:24:14 PM
Looking at pictures of other anti reverses from mystic site. The spring tip that interacts with dog may be broken
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on March 11, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
You're missing a small piece of wire that wraps around the ratchet and has a tail that sits in the groove on the AR dog. I'm struggling to describe it. I'll look for a pic.
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: alantani on March 11, 2022, 03:52:21 PM
Yeah, a spring is missing.
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Wompus Cat on March 11, 2022, 04:14:04 PM
I see no Spring nor Wire in any of the Schematics I have loaded for this Reel.
But it does appear as though a spring could go under the lever and stick in the slot on the lever  .
Some Mechanisms use the countering weight of the lever itself to engage the gear when the lever is not blocked from doing it.
So MAYBE a thorough cleaning of the post where the lever sits on would take care of it plus after removing the lever you may find the Remnants of an aforementioned spring.
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Wompus Cat on March 11, 2022, 04:29:19 PM
Could have been a spring where the arrow points but none show in the schematics I have found so far so removing the lever might give some insight . And as JasonGotaProblem stated. While  I have seen those wires on other reels but don't think it would work on this lever configuration .
 And OF COURSE the BOSS is like the SHADOW ................THE SHADOW KNOWS Wah- Haa- Haa- Haa! (Old Pipe Organ Music Should Be playing Here in Background as well)

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Left click twice to SUPER SIZE!
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Midway Tommy on March 11, 2022, 06:49:59 PM
It's not a 4300SS. Are you sure it's not a 4400SS or 4500SS? There's supposed to be a spring under the ratchet gear that fits into the slot on the dog like Henry's arrow is pointed to. Either the spring tip is broken off, the spring is missing or the tip has slipped out of the slot in the dog. Check out a 4400SS or 4500SS schematic. They show the spring.

Here's what it looks like:

Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Wompus Cat on March 11, 2022, 07:06:02 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on March 11, 2022, 06:49:59 PMIt's not a 4300SS. Are you sure it's not a 4400SS or 4500SS? There's supposed to be a spring under the ratchet gear that fits into the slot on the dog like Henry's arrow is pointed to. Either the spring tip is broken off, the spring is missing or the tip has slipped out of the slot in the dog. Check out a 4400SS or 4500SS schematic. They show the spring.

Here's what it looks like:





Yep that is the Wire Jason refered to .
I don't care for that riggin as I can feel it when turning the handle and if I can feel it with  my ol nerve damaged paws it must echo like a Foghorn down the line in the wa wa  But that might be a Martha Stuart Moment (It's a Good Thing ) deal ......I dunno
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Wompus Cat on March 11, 2022, 07:13:59 PM
Here is Maybe what you have From Mystic 

Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 11, 2022, 10:09:40 PM
Oops it us a 4400s.
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 11, 2022, 10:12:01 PM
The tip is broken off. Mystic parts i come! Many thanks
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Wompus Cat on March 11, 2022, 11:27:49 PM
Quote from: Fishgolfman on March 11, 2022, 10:09:40 PMOops it us a 4400s.

That would have helped however the guys and gals here can  come up with a fix just knowing it's a REEL, Car, Freezer ,Drill Motor ,Carburetor,Lawnmower ,eggbeater, but draw the line on a broken promise  as there are websites for that  .....lol
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 11, 2022, 11:50:34 PM
Reel label off but spool showed it was a 4400ss
Title: Re: Penn 4300ss. Anti reverse issue. Doesn’t spring back
Post by: Wompus Cat on March 12, 2022, 10:10:37 PM
Well  you can thank JasonGottaProblem .He Nailed it the first post .(https://fortbragglibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Nailed-it-Bill.jpg)