Sometimes it just needs to work.
DIY rod wrapper with a DC motor, retrofitted to the rig Joe gave me in place of the AC motor it came with.
https://youtube.com/shorts/UTWRJsSi7lY?feature=share
I say that every time I look in the mirror :o
Cheers:
Todd
Nicely done, Jason!
Best, Fred
Yup. But in it's own way, it's a good lookin machine to me. Simple & functional & easy to adjust, repair and improve-on. Not some cosmetically pleasing expensive unit built in a corp. factory.
that pedal thingy is pretty cool
I liked it a lot
Interesting innovation. 8) Think about possibly moving it down to the floor as a foot pedal. That would free up both your hands. ;)
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 04, 2023, 03:26:44 AMInteresting innovation. 8) Think about possibly moving it down to the floor as a foot pedal. That would free up both your hands. ;)
Clever fella that fella.
Yeah it's a foot pedal. And its 4' long. So more of a foot bar.
Looking at that I was thinking you could use an old sewing machine. It's already set up with a Pedal and motor set up for variable speed. You'd just have to come up with a way to mount it and interface with the rod.
Quote from: Lunker Larry on January 04, 2023, 07:14:40 PMLooking at that I was thinking you could use an old sewing machine. It's already set up with a Pedal and motor set up for variable speed. You'd just have to come up with a way to mount it and interface with the rod.
That was actually the original design. It had a sewing machine motor and pedal. But AC motors don't do so well with the slow startup, it's minimum speed was about 20rpm. this can crawl. Or go 500rpm.
Im finding though that since the pedal is such thin wood at the far end the twisting of the bar is such that I can't get up to top speed. But that's ok.
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on January 05, 2023, 02:09:27 AMBut AC motors don't do so well with the slow startup, it's minimum speed was about 20rpm. this can crawl. Or go 500rpm.
I dont do well AT any speed of the power wrapper LOL
I have a nice PacBay power wrapper and 95% of the time I use it as manual wrapper ::)
I never in a hurry to finish my rods and prefer rotating the blank with my hand and have complete control of the feeling while wrapping it.
Quote from: steelfish on January 05, 2023, 02:22:43 AMI never in a hurry to finish my rods and prefer rotating the blank with my hand and have complete control of the feeling while wrapping it.
I'm with you, Alex. I feel like I have much better control of the thread lay by rotating the rod manually. That way I never get overlays and it's easier to keep the thread tight so there's no spaces.
The first power wrapers were all made of old sewing machine motot and foot pedal. It was a thing back then.
I couldn't get the hang of it back then and can't now. I usually wrap in a recliner in front of the TV. There's no particular hurry.
The other thing I hate about AC motors is even when you can adapt to the 0-60mph startup, it is by nature jittery. The current is coming in and out of phase constantly, and you can feel that the motor is only being pushed forward when it's in phase. No matter how hard i try, I'll never be able to do a clean tiger wrap on an AC motor. But with this new setup, I may try again.
I can't do the recliner thing like yourself and Joe prefer. I tried. The fact that I don't watch tv has nothing to do with it. My hands are so screwed up from years of judo and karate competition that I just can't do it. I need something that spins to rest the rod on. That's a minimum. The fact that it spins it for me is a nice extra.
I tell ya what though, usually I can't do more than 2 guides worth of under wraps in a night because I need my hands for my job. Last night I did under wraps on a whole rod in under an hour, with distraction breaks. The one shown below, for a Fuji LC20H, would have taken forever. Instead i got nice tight wraps in under a minute. Aaaand my hands don't hurt today. If you wanna sound like my wife, you could mention that i coulda used the time I saved to clean up the stuff in the background of the pic.
For the record the black n decker 12v drill was $25 the bike cable came in a 2 pack for $8 and the rest I already had.
Yep the DC motor / drill is a nice improvement , you can keep a slow steady Rpm or you can step on the gas ..
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on January 05, 2023, 03:05:53 PM-- My hands are so screwed up from years of judo and karate competition that I just can't do it. I need something that spins to rest the rod on. That's a minimum. The fact that it spins it for me is a nice extra.
I tell ya what though, usually I can't do more than 2 guides worth of under wraps in a night because I need my hands for my job. Last night I did under wraps on a whole rod in under an hour, with distraction breaks. The one shown below, for a Fuji LC20H, would have taken forever. Instead i got nice tight wraps in under a minute. .
Jason, you're drill setup is good and all and the best thing is that it works for you.
in my personal experience and as a note after reading about your hands, its helps a lot when turning the blank on a manual wrapper to have rollers with bearings on the stands, the amount of effort from the hand muscles to spin the blank is almost nothing, none, nada !!
1hr to do many underwraps in a rod and wrapping a long underwrap in minute sounds like a pretty good time but I prefer to take my time and dont look at the clock or checking how fast I did it when working on rods, maybe thats the reason I found myself working on rods at 2am ::) ::)
Just so you know, reel men dont notice the background clutter, it shows you have better things to do than make a photo shoot. :d
I had and used a power rod wrapper/dryer
The wrapper has the rollers so turning the rod is very minimal.
It had the sewing machine motor that would crawl as slow as possible.
Keith
Run what ya brung ! A drill motor runs a bit fast and the variables are spaced really close.. a sewing machine motor and foot pedal are super cheap on eBay .. you can buy a cheap chuck from Mudhole. The reostat in the pedal makes it way more controllable
Although a power wrapper is nice..... A hand wrapper is just as efficient unless you're doing a lot of decorative wraps.
Quote from: Hardy Boy on January 03, 2023, 04:10:45 PMI say that every time I look in the mirror :o
Cheers:
Todd
Like my mom used to tell me when I was all dressed up...you're not good looking but you're looking good