Hi,
My friend gave me one of his fathers old reels, cause he knows I like to rebuild and fix up old reels. It's a Penn 99 Silver Beach.
The reel needs work done on it not sure what yet; I cant get the take apart to come out it won't budge. It has a take apart side plate like a jigmaster or squidder. My question is 2 fold:
Does the side plate come out in the same direction as the squidders or the jigmaster? In other words does it turn in a downward direction to come out?
Does anyone know of a good solution to make to disolve some of the gunk that has it stuck to the frame?
Thank You for any answers or suggestions.
Quote from: Eatmycatch on February 21, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
Does the side plate come out in the same direction as the squidders or the jigmaster? In other words does it turn in a downward direction to come out?
Does anyone know of a good solution to make to disolve some of the gunk that has it stuck to the frame?
Thank You for any answers or suggestions.
The sideplate on a squidder comes off by turning forward (clockwise). The jigmaster comes off by turning backwards (counterclockwise).
Try soaking the frame in some degreaser, I use awesome degreaser its cheap (.99 cents store) and works for me. You can also try vinegar and a little baking soda. Both methods have worked for me in the past. If the reel has alot of salt build up I would try the vinegar/baking soda first.
Anthony
Quote from: Panama on February 21, 2012, 07:33:42 PM
If the reel has alot of salt build up I would try the vinegar/baking soda first.
Anthony
Okay guys and gals: I've heard this before. From my high school chemistry I remember that baking soda is an alkalai and vinegar is an acid. So if one were to put vinegar on a reel, (let's say to get off some green crud) then the acid would do its job by eating away the crud and if left long enough it would etch the metal. If one were to mix vinegar and baking soda together the ph would change to neutral or acidic or alkalai. So my question to all is how do you use both vinegar and baking soda? Dominick
Wow! I rebuilt a 99 Silver Beach in 2008, and soaked the reel in a vinegar/ baking soda mix, it worked awesome, removing all the corrosion and caked on white/green stufff, leaving the chrome a little dull with some brassing effect, actually looks pretty good. I took the drive side off and replaced it with a 500 jigmaster to gain better gearing and drags. Used Alans ss gear sleeve, and new 309 drag washers, and a penn two position handle. Makes an awesome little wireline reel with the chrome over brass spool.
QuoteThe sideplate on a squidder comes off by turning forward (clockwise). The jigmaster comes off by turning backwards (counterclockwise).
Panama not mine. My jigmaster and squidder both come off by turning them down counter clockwise. Maybe different version of the squiidder came off differently. What I really need to know is does anyone know the direction the Penn 99 comes off?
I think that Anthony was looking into a mirror while doing it :-\.
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 21, 2012, 11:44:43 PM
I think that Anthony was looking into a mirror while doing it :-\.
Hey Anthony: I agree with Sal. Make sure you turn the Squidder counter clockwise to remove it. By the way you really have to crank on the Squidder I sent. It's a tight fit. Dominick
QuoteI think that Anthony was looking into a mirror while doing it .
:D lmao! Come on guys the suspense is killing me I want to see what the inside looks like conditionwise. Down or up?? :o
Quote from: Eatmycatch on February 21, 2012, 11:37:46 PM
QuoteThe sideplate on a squidder comes off by turning forward (clockwise). The jigmaster comes off by turning backwards (counterclockwise).
Panama not mine. My jigmaster and squidder both come off by turning them down counter clockwise. Maybe different version of the squiidder came off differently. What I really need to know is does anyone know the direction the Penn 99 comes off?
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 21, 2012, 11:44:43 PM
I think that Anthony was looking into a mirror while doing it :-\.
Quote from: Eatmycatch on February 22, 2012, 12:06:00 AM
QuoteI think that Anthony was looking into a mirror while doing it .
:D lmao! Come on guys the suspense is killing me I want to see what the inside looks like conditionwise. Down or up?? :o
YEAH YEAH....Talk smack about me. LOL....I grab one reel and processed with the right side of my brain then grab the other and processed with the left side of my brain or maybe I just don't like you guys so I give you wrong advice.....LOL. Sorry about that, I just grab both reel and I took the 500 off but not the squidder. My bad!!! Take away my fisherman's card for a month for the mistake. Mommy says I can't come out to play today......LOL
Anthony
p.s. Counterclockwise it is!
QuoteYEAH YEAH....Talk smack about me. LOL....I grab one reel and processed with the right side of my brain then grab the other and processed with the left side of my brain or maybe I just don't like you guys so I give you wrong advice.....LOL. Sorry about that, I just grab both reel and I took the 500 off but not the squidder. My bad!!! Take away my fisherman's card for a month for the mistake. Mommy says I can't come out to play today......LOL
Anthony
p.s. Counterclockwise it is!
Anthony.... 50 lashes with a wet noodle....LOL! ;) Too funny!
just scanned this one quickly because it's long, but you know that the jigmast side plate fits this one perfectly?
I did not know that...Good to know, because of the fact that I was looking for a jigmaster Jr. any way. To go along with my Squidder Jr.
Also on these old Penn reels the engraving they put on them in those days is absolutely beautiful. This one has a guy fighting a fish in a rocky shoreline, with a lighthouse and a sail boat in the back ground.. :)
I wonder if I would be able to trick this out then with a high speed gear and pinion set...???
the answer is yes, but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing......
for the old japanese fishermen of southern california some 30-40 year ago, one of the most favored upgrades was to take a 99 silverbeach and slap a penn 500 jigmaster side plate on it. it was the best of of both worlds - a 4:1 gear ratio, a larger drag stack, and a spool that would hold a near perfect 300 yards of 30# mono. life just didn't get any better than that. i know it sounds cliche, but seriously, those were the days! ;D
Quote from: Eatmycatch on February 22, 2012, 02:35:28 AM
I wonder if I would be able to trick this out then with a high speed gear and pinion set...???
I have a penn 500 narrowed to 99 size with newell 99 spool, bars, seat and newell 5:1 gear. I also upgraded it with an alan tani SS sleeve. I had to find the right size spacing sleeve for drag to work right with the 5:1 gear. I really like the reel. Feels great to fish. Have another with tib frame which is a little heavier. The upgrades are great but for the local fishing here is a lot. Keep in mind Newell stuff is becoming costly. Is it worth it now.......don't know!
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Well I got the 99 to open, after soaking it...there was a lot of dried up fish blood that turned to glue, but I got it open.. I scrubbed the frame and insides with a toothbrush and regreased it. What it needs first is a new clicker. But I'm not sure if they are replacable. They look like they are riveted into the outside button. They sell them on Scotts...is there a wat to replace the clicker?
I also have a 500 side plate that fits perfectly too. But the 500 side plate is red and the 99 is black, it works but looks ill.. ;D
Anyone ever replace a clicker??
The clicker is not that difficult to replace. If you have a dremel it will make the job easier, I've also done it by hand, using a file.
Scott's has the replacement parts and they're only a couple of dollars. Good luck!
Thanks for the response - Just to make sure I'm following you correctly (I'm a newbie in reel rebuilding) Dremel out the old one, or file off the lip I got that...but the new pieces I will get at Scotts, how do they connect together? Do they screw together or snap in, or something different?
You need to preen, peen, no r ( sorry, I'm fluent in Italian :-\) the new one into place, the clicker botton is made of soft metal making the process easy. I do want to mention to place the plate on a piece of wood that has been wrapped with a rag, this will help not domage the tip of the new clicker botton. You will need part# 35-60 and 36-60CH.
On larger reels the clicker botton comes with a c-clip to hold the toungue down. Don't ask me why your reel doesn't come with it becouse I just don't know.
Hope this is helpful. Sal
Quote from: Eatmycatch on February 25, 2012, 02:18:15 AM
I also have a 500 side plate that fits perfectly too. But the 500 side plate is red and the 99 is black, it works but looks ill.. ;D
If you have the 500 side plates I would use those (both sides). The drags on the 500 are bigger. The 99 has a gear ratio of 3:1 the 500 has a gear ratio of 4:1. Those are the main reasons for the reel conversion.
Gotcha Sal , Thanks.
Also a good suggestion Panama...I'll have to think about this for a minute, because I have 2 different spools I use on the 500 for different apps, I may just pick up a black 500 on ebay for cheap, I kinda like the more sturdy side plate the 99 has...decisions, decisions....
Check that the 99 will take a 500 left side plate as I read somewhere the 99 reel stand has six attachment holes.
Irish Jigger - You are correct, as I just checked and the 99 does in fact have 3 screw holes on each side.
It is indeed the little engine that could though with a 500 right side, hooked up to it. A good and strong, compact reel, with a nice strong drag and a little faster retrieve. Especially with the over sized handle the thing is like a little chain hoist... ;D
I just bought a Penn 99 off eBay for a good friend who collects Penn's. Was disappointed to find the Stand was cut longitudinally into two pieces each secured to the Side Plates by three screws. Otherwise the reel was in great condition but not collectable. I did not notice this on the eBay photograph. :-[
I checked with Scott's only to find the 30-99 Seat was discontinued. What a mess. :'(
Phoned my Penn contact in England looking for one in any condition. He replied saying he had a box of 60, 30-99 Seats brand new and that I was the only person who had ever asked for one. Received it today and now have a beautiful little 99 ready for my friends collection. Lucky or what? ;D
Got me thinking about the amount of new old stock Penn parts lying in different locations out there.
Quote from: Irish Jigger on September 06, 2012, 05:20:11 PM
Phoned my Penn contact in England looking for one in any condition. He replied saying he had a box of 60, 30-99 Seats brand new and that I was the only person who had ever asked for one. Received it today and now have a beautiful little 99 ready for my friends collection. Lucky or what? ;D
Got me thinking about the amount of new old stock Penn parts lying in different locations out there.
Very lucky. I think he could make a nice chunk of change selling them on ebay. I've seen them on ebay only once or twice in the last three years, and I bought one of them.
I can order this genuine Penn part for anyone needing it, the downside being the cost of shipping. :'(
BTW the 30-99 Stand also fits the Penn International 12H.