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Title: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: Swami805 on May 19, 2023, 02:31:52 AM
I recently put a set of ceramic bearings in my Newell G332. When I turn it side to side it rattles a little like there's a couple small screws loose inside, I checked, there isn't
Anyone ever use these? The 100% ceramic bearings not the hybrids
Thanks
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: boon on May 19, 2023, 03:33:06 AM
Did you install them dry? They do rattle/chatter a lot without lubrication.
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: Swami805 on May 19, 2023, 03:47:53 AM
Yes dry, i cleaned all the oil and grease off the spool shaft and bearing cups too. Should I lube them?
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 19, 2023, 04:30:16 AM
Ceramics won't ever be silent. But they will be quieter with a dab of oil. I vote TSI 321. That's what all my ceramics get.
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: boon on May 19, 2023, 04:54:26 AM
Quote from: Swami805 on May 19, 2023, 03:47:53 AMYes dry, i cleaned all the oil and grease off the spool shaft and bearing cups too. Should I lube them?

My understanding is they perform best without any lubrication at all, they're just noisy. I had a couple of reels with ceramic spool bearings and I ended up lightly oiling them as I like my reels silent.
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: Swami805 on May 19, 2023, 05:45:40 AM
I'm ok with a little noise casting, the rattle is a little in-nerving though
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: alantani on May 19, 2023, 04:05:06 PM
Never been a fan of anything ceramic in a bearing.   :-\
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: Midway Tommy on May 19, 2023, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: alantani on May 19, 2023, 04:05:06 PMNever been a fan of anything ceramic in a bearing.   :-\

I'm with you on that, Alan!
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: mo65 on May 19, 2023, 04:54:02 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on May 19, 2023, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: alantani on May 19, 2023, 04:05:06 PMNever been a fan of anything ceramic in a bearing.  :-\

I'm with you on that, Alan!

  Me three...but those ceramic bearings really cast well...if you don't mind your reel sounding like it needs serviced. 8)
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: Swami805 on May 19, 2023, 06:21:06 PM
Mr tenderloin on here sent me some to try so thought I'd give them a go. I have a trip coming up Tuesday with the opportunity to throw some iron. I know all the guys on the boat and they think I'm a little off anyway. Something new to irritate them
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 19, 2023, 06:25:34 PM
It's not thaaat loud. I'll bet the AR dog is louder.
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: philaroman on May 19, 2023, 07:58:08 PM
wonder if "reverse hybrid" would be functional:
fat ceramic outer race that won't corrode & freeze to the frame; cost-effective steel everywhere else
thinking mostly of gear bearings in light S/W spinners -- not, spool bearing speed/distance
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: steelfish on May 19, 2023, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on May 19, 2023, 06:21:06 PMI know all the guys on the boat and they think I'm a little off anyway. Something new to irritate them

they will get more irritated when you out fished them .. again !
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: Donnyboat on May 19, 2023, 10:02:55 PM
All the long cast records are made using ciramics, using them dry, if your going to lube them, then just the smallest drop you can manage, yes dry they make a lot of noise, not long ago I seen a bloke casting over 200 M , his best was 223 M but it did wander of line a bit, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: JRD on May 20, 2023, 10:53:39 PM
I'm on board with the smallest amount of light oil.  Best is dry but the noise has always bothered me. With regular bearings when they make that sound it's telling you they're about to blow up on you.
Title: Re: Ceramic bearings rattle??
Post by: Gfish on May 20, 2023, 11:02:29 PM


Quote from: Swami805 on May 19, 2023, 06:21:06 PMMr tenderloin on here sent me some to try so thought I'd give them a go. I have a trip coming up Tuesday with the opportunity to throw some iron. I know all the guys on the boat and they think I'm a little off anyway. Something new to irritate them

That's the spirit Swami805. Keep it interesting. You sound like onea my kind.