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Title: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: Nickels on August 11, 2023, 03:35:33 PM
Need the wisdom of the forum here. I have an older 209 with a brass bridge and sleeve. I purchased a 3/64" pin punch to try and knock the gear sleeve pin out. It won't budge. I've soaked it in acetone. I've soaked it with WD-40. The sleeve now spins much better, but I would really like to complete the tear down and do the whole thing right by removing the old grease and then putting it all back together. Any thoughts? I've wondered about sanding down the sleeve a bit to remove any burrs, but worry about the diameter of the sleeve and messing that up. Appreciate any thoughts and tips. - Nickels
Title: Re: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: Gfish on August 11, 2023, 03:49:50 PM
Maybe, what you've been doing for the pin removal + heat. The sleeve would best be wire brushed, rather than sanded.
Title: Re: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: foakes on August 11, 2023, 04:20:24 PM
Honestly, support one flat side of the sleeve on a block of wood with a hole drilled in it.

And use a larger hammer.

It will come out.

If another pin is needed —- we can send you a new one at N/C.

Sometimes, it is OK to get a little more aggressive.

I have worked on thousands of these over the years —- and have never had one that would not come out.

Welcome aboard!

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: Maxed Out on August 11, 2023, 11:20:09 PM
 The pin will only come out easy on one side. I use a small finishing nail to knock out pins
Title: Re: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: Crab Pot on August 12, 2023, 12:18:04 AM
Quote from: foakes on August 11, 2023, 04:20:24 PMAnd use a larger hammer.

That's Funny Fred!
 
Title: Re: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: Keta on August 12, 2023, 12:57:33 AM
I have hammers from a few ounces to 20#. 

You need to back the gearsleeve like Fred said   I have a piece of 4" steel shaft with the ends turned flat and parallel with a hole drilled it it rather that wood. 

Sometimes it helps to drive it the other way too.
Title: Re: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: nelz on August 12, 2023, 04:58:06 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on August 11, 2023, 11:20:09 PMI use a small finishing nail to knock out pins

Me too, and tap it out with a small jewelers hammer. No 20 pounder needed.  ;D
Title: Re: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: Nickels on August 14, 2023, 05:59:54 PM
Update time. The finish nail sounded like a good first try. Nope. Bent the finish nail like a toothpick. Next up was a small little punch I found with a super pointed end and seemed to be made of hardened stainless steel. Backed it on the vice in basement at an angle and viola! Pin is now out and the gunk is now removed. Thanks guys for all the tips. I'm going to keep that little pseudo punch handy for these rebuilds. Cheers  :d
Title: Re: Penn Peer 209 Stuck Gear Sleeve Pin
Post by: Shellbelly on August 17, 2023, 11:11:09 PM
Quote from: Nickels on August 14, 2023, 05:59:54 PMI'm going to keep that little pseudo punch handy for these rebuilds.
My eyesight isn't the best, but it seems one hole is always smaller than the other.  I push the pin out from the "smaller" hole and it comes out through the larger hole.  Reverse to go back in.  This makes me think that the pin has a very slight taper.  Not sure if that's a fact, but it works out for me.