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Title: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on November 12, 2023, 05:26:10 PM
Hello
I'd like some information on the methods used for cleaning internal reel parts....gears shafts ext....I'd like to used non toxic methods...is Dawn and water a good choice...are there other choices...
Juan
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: Midway Tommy on November 12, 2023, 05:42:16 PM
Dawn is a good last choice after you've used a decent degreaser. The best non-toxic degreaser/cleaner I can think of would be some sort of hand cleaner like GOOP. If it's safe for your hands it should fit your non-toxic parameters. It should be safe for painted and plastic surfaces as long as it doesn't contain pumice. You'll have to do a little scrubbing with a toothbrush, though, to get parts really clean. Use Dawn & warm water after that.
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on November 12, 2023, 06:05:06 PM
Thanks for the input Tommy...I found the Goop without pumice on Amazon...it's good for several other things...so yeah I'll give it a shot
Juan
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: aok on November 30, 2023, 04:31:17 AM
Dawn works well for me.
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: alantani on November 30, 2023, 04:56:00 AM
i usually just scrub with a greasy toothbrush, wipe off the excess, then go in again with a cleaner toothbrush and leave an even coat of grease.  no soap. 
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: the rockfish ninja on November 30, 2023, 10:24:14 PM
I use a rag, and the only thing I put on any reel parts is grease or oil.
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on November 30, 2023, 11:03:54 PM
Thanks rockfish...
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on November 30, 2023, 11:05:38 PM
Alan thanks...can you tell me the name of the Yamaha grease you recommend
Juan
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: Jonathan S on December 01, 2023, 03:07:18 AM
Penn reel cleaner works great if you want a degreaser.  not cheap but if you are not doing very many reels it lasts a long while. 
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: alantani on December 01, 2023, 03:17:13 AM
it's just yamaha marine.  pretty standard stuff.
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on December 01, 2023, 03:30:30 AM
Hello Jonathan S
I currently use Cal's and Penn reel grease on my reels...both are great products...may add the Penn degreaser as well
Juan
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on December 01, 2023, 03:33:42 AM
Alan thanks...think I'm gonna try the Yamaha grease and the method you mentioned...let you know how it works out...although a cleaning degreaser may be necessary at times
Juan
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: 1badf350 on December 01, 2023, 01:10:40 PM
I use Simple Green Crystal degreaser. Its worked well for me. One gallon lasts quite a long time. You can also get it in a spray bottle.

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Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 01, 2023, 05:00:05 PM
I used simple green once 20 years ago to try to clean our utility room floor. It peeled the paint right off the floor. :o  Only used it once since and that was to clean calf after-birth stains off the bare concrete basement floor. Previous owner brought a newborn calf into the basement during a snowstorm, then he carpeted over the stain. Saw it when we recarpeted. The neighbors told us what had happened. Simple green got completely rid of that stain but I haven't used it since. It's too strong for my taste.  ::) 
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on December 01, 2023, 05:03:41 PM
Hello 1badf350
I had a 71 F150 wish I still had it...
I used to fish Anaheim Bay where there was a simple green plant right in PCH
This is a good product I've used it before and it fits into the non solvent non toxic category...in fact I may have a bottle around someplace...
Thanks for the info
Juan
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: Brewcrafter on December 01, 2023, 05:48:41 PM
One of the "tricks" with Simple Green is it's concentration - many times the stuff purchased in bulk is meant to be cut or diluted with water to a "working strength" which they tend to print in 6 point type.  Given my previous professional life; there was certainly a tendency to the philosophy when reading dilution instructions to "If a little is good, more is better and waaaay too much is just right" (thank God I do not supervise a Team anymore.  My two weekly diatribes: "Are your safety glasses doing you any good sitting on the top of your head" and "Do you know what a graduated cylinder is for?") Anyhow, it is pretty aggressive stuff that I tend to use sparingly and diluted.  A little more "elbow grease" and a little less "apply and rinse" mentality. - john
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: jurelometer on December 01, 2023, 09:04:05 PM
Good on you for taking non-toxic into consideration. 

I keep saying this:

Isopropyl alcohol is a great solvent on lubricating grease. If you use 90% or greater concentration, a thin layer of it will evaporate nearly immediately. It does not leave a residue. It is not nearly as toxic as most of the alternative solvents. Stronger is not always better.

And you don't need to worry about hazardous waste disposal.  It all just evaporates.

The one disadvantage of isopropyl alcohol relative to the more powerful (and toxic) solvents is that it takes more of it to dissolve the same amount of grease.  So maybe not the best solvent for rebuilding your car engine, but reel parts are small, and you can even wipe them first. 

In fact, as Alan noted, in many cases wiping off most of the old grease is all that is necessary.  I only worry about cleaning out all the old grease if there is some sort of contamination or hardening.

If you use soap or similar cleaners, you will need to clean completely, and rise thoroughly to remove any cleaner residue or contaminated grease.  Otherwise  it can degrade the newly applied grease.

IMHO, if you already have a suitable grease, there is no need to buy another.  Yamalube Marine is not magic grease.  It is just one of many that will get the job done. Reels are not very demanding machinery when it comes to greases.

-J
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: 1badf350 on December 02, 2023, 02:12:15 AM
Quote from: bluesnart on December 01, 2023, 05:03:41 PMHello 1badf350
I had a 71 F150 wish I still had it...
I used to fish Anaheim Bay where there was a simple green plant right in PCH
This is a good product I've used it before and it fits into the non solvent non toxic category...in fact I may have a bottle around someplace...
Thanks for the info
Juan
Just don't use it for side plates. It will dull them immediately
Anything metal is good to go.
I just soak parts in a plastic container overnight then rinse in the morning. It really works well.
I dump it back in the bottle after use
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: Rancanfish on December 02, 2023, 03:36:39 AM
Our old friend Sal turned me on to Paslode spray electronic tool cleaner. Way safer than brake cleaner and cuts right thru the grease. And Home Depot carries it.
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on December 02, 2023, 04:01:54 AM
These are all interesting and important suggestions to a newcomer like me...although I have been taking care of my reels for a long time...the the need to be more thorough began a few years back when I started "collecting"...accumulating really...direct drive reels...then Zeno Cardinal Dam Quick and Shimano Bantam 100 1000 300...to name a few...and servicing them more completely
I have used alcohol and it worked..thanks...simple green not so much...and I do understand the need to "keep it simple and not overthink this subject but it's interesting to me to read your comments and as every bass fisherman knows...what's enough!
Thanks again Juan
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 02, 2023, 04:32:34 AM
Back when I was still making hot sauce professionally with reapers and scorpions etc I always kept a bottle of high proof cheap booze on hand for when pepper mash eventually got on your skin. 76% is the highest florida allows. That cut capsaicin pretty well. I kinda wanna get another bottle and put it in a spray bottle. Probably work pretty well.
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: jgp12000 on December 02, 2023, 11:56:41 AM
There is a good cleaner "Awesome"
I have used it on reels externally only and it's good for hand prints on walls<grandchildren>I have never used on reel grease.I will test it next time I service a reel. I use lacquer thinner on reel internals,but never on painted parts.Awesome is cheap.


Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: ourford on December 02, 2023, 04:11:03 PM
I second the Isopropyl alcohol.
Title: Re: Cleaning Reels
Post by: bluesnart on December 03, 2023, 08:13:09 PM
I wanna thank the members for all of your interesting comments...
Juan