Reel Repair by Alan Tani

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Title: 113H- everything SS
Post by: BMITCH on March 16, 2012, 09:09:10 AM
Hi everyone, does anyone know if there is available The following parts in SS.

11-113  eccentric jack
3-113H  bridge w/ sleeve. ( sleeve not required as I already have the upgraded one from Alan)

Trying to make a 113HLW as corrosion proof and strong as possible. I've already started a separate thread about the JV side plates.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Squirmypug on March 16, 2012, 02:12:58 PM
Working on getting the ss bridge, I'm not sure about the jack.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Keta on March 16, 2012, 02:28:36 PM
Making a jack will require a press and form.  A full machine shop should be able to make them.  Bridges can be made relatively easy if you cut them out with a water cutter and have access to a lathe and TIG welder.


The SS dogs are still waiting to be cut.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: alantani on March 16, 2012, 03:03:21 PM
as far as i know, these parts are not available.  not sure they are necessary, either, but i understand why you are asking.  if i was putting the reel together, that's the way i would build it. 
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: BMITCH on March 16, 2012, 03:04:22 PM
If all these SS parts come together what an awesome reel that will be. I greatly appreciate everyone's efforts and hope this becomes the reel deal. I'm sure other reel addicts will want to upgrade the 113H also.


Thanks

Bob
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: alantani on March 16, 2012, 03:08:26 PM
i would be more interested in seeing all of the exposed metal parts made of stainless first.  rings would be nice.  then add clicker buttons, levers, star all the screws.  we already have a stainless steel handle arm and gear sleeve.  it's just alot of money.   :-\
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Keta on March 16, 2012, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 16, 2012, 03:08:26 PM
rings would be nice. 

When my S-n-L gets back home from Alaska I plan on having my daughter "tell him"  :o to see if he can make me some SS rings.  If he can build WWII Zero airframe parts he should be able to make rings.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: seaeagle2 on March 16, 2012, 04:05:13 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 16, 2012, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 16, 2012, 03:08:26 PM
rings would be nice. 

  if he can make me some SS rings.  If he can build WWII Zero airframe parts he should be able to make rings.

I'm thinking SS rings would be awesome looking, some grease would take care of most internals, but those rings.....
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: BMITCH on March 16, 2012, 05:01:24 PM
Lee, you have a very full plate.... SS dogs, SS bridge plate, maybe an eccentric.... If all these things come about you will have a cult following, starting with me. This site has awesome people on it!!!!!
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Keta on March 16, 2012, 05:19:42 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on March 16, 2012, 05:01:24 PM
Lee, you have a very full plate.... SS dogs, SS bridge plate, maybe an eccentric.... If all these things come about you will have a cult following, starting with me. This site has awesome people on it!!!!!

I just have a lot of time and connections to real metal workers.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: BMITCH on March 16, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
Well all the info and know how is greatly appreciated! Now where is those SS dogs for the 113H! LOL.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Irish Jigger on March 16, 2012, 06:05:53 PM
The replacement rings for the 112H are now SS,not sure about the 113h rings. :-\
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Caranx on March 19, 2012, 03:25:34 AM
Let's take it one step further. How about titanium dog's, yokes, eccentrics, free spool lever, harness lugs and handle arms?
Parts that are easy to make on a water jet. That way not much material waste.
Could be more affordable.  I wonder what the price would be compared to SS.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Makule on March 19, 2012, 03:40:02 AM
Quote from: Caranx on March 19, 2012, 03:25:34 AM
Let's take it one step further. How about titanium dog's, yokes, eccentrics, free spool lever, harness lugs and handle arms?
Parts that are easy to make on a water jet. That way not much material waste.
Could be more affordable.  I wonder what the price would be compared to SS.

Titanium parts would have to be made of hard titanium and that will be more costly than SS.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Caranx on March 19, 2012, 05:44:12 AM
I understand cost. I say maybe 3-4 times SS.
But if it was just the "got to have it factor", because of corrosion"proof" and lightweight, how many reel-heads would go for it.
Remember, look at the price of a SS high speed gear set at the moment.
Looks like it costs more than the price of titanium.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: alantani on March 19, 2012, 06:21:55 AM
my thinking is that you can take care of the corrosion issues on the inside with a light coat of grease.  i would look to change out brass part for stainless when strength is a concern.  now we are talking specifically about the drive train (draw a line from the handle grip to the spool) and the anti-reverse system (the dogs).   i would also like to see all exposed metal parts made of stainless, but that's a corrosion issue.  

so i would say that not everything needs to be stainless.   um, but you're right, it would be nice ......   ;D
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Keta on March 19, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
Titanium is harder to work than SS and does not play well with other metals when exposed to saltwater.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Caranx on March 19, 2012, 07:31:42 PM
I didn't know it was incompatible with other metals. It's good to know that.
Does the water jets have a hard time cutting Ti?
I know Ti is very hard on bits. It's not cost effective in most applications.

Sorry about bringing up this subject, I should have made another thread instead.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Keta on March 19, 2012, 08:21:58 PM
The water cutter does not appearer to have problems cutting anything.  One of the jobs that is slowing down the SS dogs is 4" steel plate. 

Look up electrolysis and the Nobility Scale for more information on dissimilar metals.
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Caranx on March 19, 2012, 09:04:08 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 19, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
Titanium is harder to work than SS and does not play well with other metals when exposed to saltwater.
Even when the parts  are coated with grease and is not submerged in salt water? Electrolysis will still occur?
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Keta on March 19, 2012, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: Caranx on March 19, 2012, 09:04:08 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 19, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
Titanium is harder to work than SS and does not play well with other metals when exposed to saltwater.
Even when the parts  are coated with grease and is not submerged in salt water? Electrolysis will still occur?

Not as much but I've seen large diameter SS pipe damaged by a titanium bolt laying on it in air.  The air had a heavy SO2 content and high moisture so there was a good chance sulphuric acid was involved.  The acid would replace saltwater as the "electrolyte".  
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: Caranx on March 19, 2012, 09:51:36 PM
Thanks for all the info Keta.
I appreciate it.
I just love Ti... Rem 700 Ti action, Citizen Ti wrist watch, Ti dive knife etc. just to name a few. ;D
Title: Re: 113H- everything SS
Post by: suitekids on May 06, 2012, 07:58:10 AM
Quote from: Squirmypug on March 16, 2012, 02:12:58 PM
Working on getting the ss bridge, I'm not sure about the jack.

I would buy 3 SS bridges in a heartbeat!!