I'm totally drawing a blank. What is this called and the boot that covers it? Doing some rigging and need some of the boots.
Bill
If you're stupid, so am I. No idea other than a snap ring.
I think thats a rosco clip
The other item is a heat shrink boot i think
It's a Hawaiian snap!
Mcmahon snap
https://bottomdwellerstackle.com/mcmahon-snap-or-scissor-snap/?attribute_select-size=Size+#3,+80+lb+test,+10+pack
crimp protectors
https://catchalltackle.com/black-crimp-protectors/
I think the rubber cover for McMahon snaps is called a boot.
Got it! Thank Ohana. Bill
Bill they are mainly used for trolling Rapalas, Nomads, Marauders, Yo zuri bonito also can clip onto tuna feather swivel.
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 31, 2024, 02:54:24 AMBill they are mainly used for trolling Rapalas, Nomads, Marauders, Yo zuri bonito also can clip onto tuna feather swivel.
Yeah. I have a bunch of the McMahon clips ( not sure where i got them) but no crimp protectors. Didnt know what they were called so i could order some. Bill
Bill you might just want to buy the small heat shrink tubes at harbor freight and use them instead, save some money.
Can I feel stupid too?
What is the purpose of the rubber boot/crimp protector on McMahon snaps? I bought a premade wahoo leader cable a long time ago that came with one, but never found a reason to put rubbers on my snaps. Don't look like they help much on keeping the snap locked.
And I have a hard time buying the "make it more hydrodynamic for trolling argument".
I sort of get using them on crimps- a bit less tangle prone, nicer for handling, and allows any weed to slip over when trolling(but probably still gets stuck on the lure).
-J
Once tied to your mainline it makes change out from lure to lure very easy.
I believe the crimp protector keeps the snap from opening. Bill
It also helps a little with tangles and picking up debris like little bits of kelp and grass
Quote from: jurelometer on May 31, 2024, 03:57:18 PMCan I feel stupid too?
What is the purpose of the rubber boot/crimp protector on McMahon snaps? I bought a premade wahoo leader cable a long time ago that came with one, but never found a reason to put rubbers on my snaps. Don't look like they help much on keeping the snap locked.
And I have a hard time buying the "make it more hydrodynamic for trolling argument".
I sort of get using them on crimps- a bit less tangle prone, nicer for handling, and allows any weed to slip over when trolling(but probably still gets stuck on the lure).
-J
I always thought they were to keep weeds and debris off the swivel and snap.
I'm not really not seeing much obvious benefit so far, TBH.
If it goes over the swivel and snap, than you are not going to get as much swivelling.
As for keeping the snap closed: I was just playing with mine, and it doesn't hold a McMahon shut, as MacMahons open by compression, and the rubber thingy is applying compressive force. Also, like split rings, these type of snaps usually fail because of some sort of twisting load, creating a gap for the lure to get levered out. A bit of rubber ain't going to help here.
As noted before on the weed thing: If the weed gets past the snap, you are only better off if the same weed does not end up hanging on your lure. It is sliding down the same line. Maybe...
I am going to file this under "common practice- but no strong evidence of benefit or detriment", so following the herd is a reasonable strategy.
And it does make the rig look more premium :)
-J
I have never trusted snaps and use heavy split rings to attach my wire and chafing leaders to my lures.
Quote from: Keta on May 31, 2024, 08:30:23 PMI have never trusted snaps and use heavy split rings to attach my wire and chafing leaders to my lures.
I think that a McMahon is a different case. I trust it more than a round split ring. It is sort of a stronger version of a split ring.
I had one break at the swivel end.
Oooh...
That is where all the stess is from openinig and closing. Also where it gets pulled on.
Yup. I was trolling with handlines off of the Oregon State University research vessel Wecoma 800 or so miles west of Cape Mendocino when something big hit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Wecoma
https://literacynet.org/ocean/report3_askaplant/3_team.html
Nice write-up there.
I use those little rubber thingys as well as buffer beads on my trolling rigs to cover the knot tying the double line to the swivel eye. Apart from helping keep weed at bay and protecting the knot, the main benefit is to stop some clot winding the swivel tight into the top guide.
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 31, 2024, 05:56:21 AMBill you might just want to buy the small heat shrink tubes at harbor freight and use them instead, save some money.
Great idea