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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: Fish-aholic on March 20, 2012, 10:41:39 PM

Title: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Fish-aholic on March 20, 2012, 10:41:39 PM
Can I ask you knowledgeable folks - after I have greased a carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack with cal's drag grease; by the time the reel is due for it's next service; is it worth me cleaning the drag stack of the old cal's drag grease I applied months earlier and then reapply fresh cal's drag grease with every service?

At the moment, I do clean and reapply cal's to the drag stack after every service (star drag), but I am wondering if I am overemphasizing this to a point where I could leave the already greased drag stack with cal's for another term - or maybe even longer  ???

Thanks in advance!  ;)




Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: wallacewt on March 20, 2012, 11:07:16 PM
some of my reels are untouched after 2years of the at treatment.if it aint broke !!
if i suspect water got in after a trip i do them as soon as possible.
others may do things different.
hope this helps
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: redsetta on March 21, 2012, 12:37:22 AM
Quote...if it ain't broke! if i suspect water got in after a trip i do them as soon as possible.
x2
Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Alto Mare on March 21, 2012, 02:15:59 AM
Don't get lazy on us guys. How would you know if water got in ???.
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Alto Mare on March 21, 2012, 02:26:15 AM
Fish-aholic, at the end of my fishing season Itake my reels completely apart and inspect every parts. If the drags feel and look good after my inspection, I let them go.
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: redsetta on March 21, 2012, 02:40:49 AM
Agree absolutely Sal.
I often fish off a paddleboard or kayak, so my reels frequently take a dunking.
Likewise, if I'm fishing off a boat (or beach/rocks) in heavy conditions, they're likely to get a good soaking.
If so, I strip 'em, clean and relube the bearings, and check the drag stack for any water intrusion (regreasing where necessary).
If they don't get a soaking, I'll give 'em a quick rinse with warm water (with the drag tightened), dry with a clean towel, then leave for a few days to dry out fully in the hot water cupboard.
I'll usually strip and rebuild all my regular reels at least twice a year.
Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: alantani on March 21, 2012, 05:03:27 AM
re-grease maybe once every 10 years......  ;D
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: wallacewt on March 21, 2012, 07:01:22 AM
mr alto mare,    how do you know if water got in ???
lets c
boat gets swamp
put reel in free spool,click on,dont want a birdsnest
while holding line drop over side to check depth.
dog mistakes it for a tree.
you lend it.
rod breaks,BIG FISH ON,reel gets covered in tears.
i may have missed a couple
hope this helps.
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: redsetta on March 21, 2012, 08:41:27 AM
Quotedog mistakes it for a tree.
you lend it.
rod breaks,BIG FISH ON,reel gets covered in tears.
Classic - mate, you're always good for a laugh.  :D ;D
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Nuvole on March 21, 2012, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 21, 2012, 05:03:27 AM
re-grease maybe once every 10 years......  ;D

Seriously?
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Alto Mare on March 21, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: redsetta on March 21, 2012, 08:41:27 AM
Quotedog mistakes it for a tree.
you lend it.
rod breaks,BIG FISH ON,reel gets covered in tears.
Classic - mate, you're always good for a laugh.  :D ;D
Ok Wallace.
You must have written a couple of books in the past. If you didn't, get to it because I need to have them.
Love your lines ;).
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: wallacewt on March 21, 2012, 11:41:35 AM
ok buddy
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: alantani on March 22, 2012, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Nuvole on March 21, 2012, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 21, 2012, 05:03:27 AM
re-grease maybe once every 10 years......  ;D

Seriously?

seriously!
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Fish-aholic on March 22, 2012, 01:52:49 PM
Many thanks for the replies!  ;)

Quote from: alantani on March 22, 2012, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Nuvole on March 21, 2012, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 21, 2012, 05:03:27 AM
re-grease maybe once every 10 years......  ;D

Seriously?

seriously!

I thought as much. Definately overemphasizing the regreasing of the drag stack and wasting expensive cal's drag grease (1oz pots). I knew I should of asked sooner lol - oh well, shame there isn't a 'slap your own forehead' smiley available on this great forum :)

Fish'aholic

Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Jim on March 22, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 22, 2012, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Nuvole on March 21, 2012, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 21, 2012, 05:03:27 AM
re-grease maybe once every 10 years......  ;D

Seriously?

seriously!

REALLY?
Given the heat repeatedly generated, humidity/water/salt, and the contamination of carbon shedding from the drag washers?
That makes me VERY uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: alantani on March 22, 2012, 11:57:58 PM
just leave the star buttoned down.  they will work great!  it is also not a problem to go through and inspect your reel.  or you could just yank on the line and see if the drag is still smooth.  chances are it will be for a very long time!
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Brendan on March 23, 2012, 04:14:36 AM
     If you watch the Shimano tutorials, they tell you to lightly grease the drag washers. If you follow that thought as I have, you will notice that the washers absorb a lot of the Cal's that was applied. I have done very little in the way of controlled testing like some of the pros on this site, but realize new washers absorb the grease to the point where they almost dry out. The second coat seems to last. Again no real data to back me up, just an observation. If it ever feels less than perfect, clean and apply more Cal's.
     Tight Lines, Brendan.
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: Fishnmike on March 27, 2012, 10:18:29 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 22, 2012, 11:57:58 PM
just leave the star buttoned down.  they will work great!  it is also not a problem to go through and inspect your reel.  or you could just yank on the line and see if the drag is still smooth.  chances are it will be for a very long time!

So Alan are you saying you shouldn't loosen the drag between trips? This is counter to what I have always been told.
Title: Re: Greased carbon fibre/carbontex drag stack and timeline between fresh is applied?
Post by: alantani on March 31, 2012, 08:31:37 PM
correct.  with carbon fiber and teflon grease, the drags can stay buttoned down forever and you will never have a problem.  the stuff works that well!