A few years ago ODFW opened up a new Fishery targeting suspended rockfish. It requires a 30 foot space between the weight and first hook to avoid yellow eye.
I have better photos on my wife's phone and will post when she sends them to me.
The canary rockfish are the largest I have ever seen.
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That looks like good eatin', Lee!
John
I gotta wonder how big y'alls freezers are. That's a lotta fish. AGAIN.
Nice haul, Lee! - Jimmer
Nice haul
How long is 30 space ?
That's a nice pile of cod, what's the fish closest to you? Looks like a chili pepper.
Quote from: Gobi King on August 16, 2024, 12:22:05 PMNice haul
How long is 30 space ?
30 foot, I edited the post.
Quote from: Swami805 on August 16, 2024, 01:29:22 PMThat's a nice pile of cod, what's the fish closest to you? Looks like a chilli pepper.
Similar but not quite the same, it is a less common fish and I do not remember what it is. The brown fish are yellowtail and widow rockfish.
When and where Lee? Oregon's rules are indeed a different deal. I don't understand why they are talking about reducing black rockfish limits and yet allow longlines.
P.S. I saw a private seller listing fish descenders for sale at $10.
Wednesday out of Newport, OR.
When they cut off fishing deep water bottom fish everyone moved inshore and the black and blue rockfish got hit hard. The same thing happened when they cut off salmon fishing years ago. ODFW is almost as good at mismanaging as California.
Lee - Nice haul! Your post got me thinking (a dangerous pastime, I know) and I started wondering about exactly HOW I would fish/create such a rig. So:
1. What are ODFW rules for rigs? I know here in DPRK we are limited to 2 hooks, max.
2. I am old enough to remember the days of fishing 5 or even 10 hook gangions of shrimp flies for rockfish. And it required a certain amount of skill where once you were to the top of the leader, you set the pole down and handlined the fish over and into the sack hanging in front of you while collecting the rig in a small bucket or cutoff bleach bottle sitting on deck or tied to rail. Then rebait, hand line back out, and once rig is fully deployed pick up the rod and down she goes (back in the days of rail plates and when a 2# cannonball was "light weight"). Is your 30' weight section attached to the hook section with a snap for quick disconnect and bring aboard when moving/end of day? Do you make your 30' section of lighter line (say 30#) to create a breakaway if you get hung in the rocks and not lose your hook section? Anyhow, that's what I'm envisioning in my mind but always ready to learn new stuff! Thank you Sir! - john
Looks like the 30' leader isn't hurting anything. Do you use electronics to locate suspended schools ? - Jimmer
I only see a lot of fish tacos :P
nice haul Lee
Quote from: Jimmer on August 16, 2024, 04:31:26 PMLooks like the 30' leader isn't hurting anything. Do you use electronics to locate suspended schools ? - Jimmer
Yes, we were fishing 450'-600' far beyond sight of land, good sonar/chart plotter is mandatory. The canaries are usually in the bottom 50', the widow and yellowtail are in large schools, sometimes 200' from the top to the bottom of the school and in the middle of the water column.
With 4-6 pounds of lead and these depths a electric reel is almost mandatory. I have a Diawa Tanacom Bull 750fe on a 5' bent but rod I built for this fishery.
Quote from: Brewcrafter on August 16, 2024, 03:55:27 PMLee - Nice haul! Your post got me thinking (a dangerous pastime, I know) and I started wondering about exactly HOW I would fish/create such a rig. So:
1. What are ODFW rules for rigs? I know here in DPRK we are limited to 2 hooks, max.
2. I am old enough to remember the days of fishing 5 or even 10 hook gangions of shrimp flies for rockfish. And it required a certain amount of skill where once you were to the top of the leader, you set the pole down and handlined the fish over and into the sack hanging in front of you while collecting the rig in a small bucket or cutoff bleach bottle sitting on deck or tied to rail. Then rebait, hand line back out, and once rig is fully deployed pick up the rod and down she goes (back in the days of rail plates and when a 2# cannonball was "light weight"). Is your 30' weight section attached to the hook section with a snap for quick disconnect and bring aboard when moving/end of day? Do you make your 30' section of lighter line (say 30#) to create a breakaway if you get hung in the rocks and not lose your hook section? Anyhow, that's what I'm envisioning in my mind but always ready to learn new stuff! Thank you Sir! - john
I would use more swivels. Most use heavy "leaders" mine are made out of of net cord. The weight is usually 20 plus from the bottom so snags are not common. Snap swivels below the float and the bottom hook are important for storage.
A tip, secure the rig before unhooking fish or touching the hooks, 4-6 pounds of lead WILL drive a hook into bone if something slips.... not only have I seen it I have hooked a 170# "sucker" a few times.... I do not learn that fast 😁 I now have a large snap tied to a cleet that I attach to the top swivel of the "leader" now. Tangles can be a nightmare.
ODFW LONGLEADER INFO
https://myodfw.com/articles/offshore-longleader-gear#:~:text=Offshore%20longleader%20gear%20consists%20of,and%20natural%20bait%20is%20prohibited.
I heard about long leader cod fishing when I was in Depot Bay a couple years back.
Doesn't it also have a longer season?
Guess Lings would be few and far between.
Steve
Quote from: Crab Pot on August 16, 2024, 09:22:11 PMI heard about long leader cod fishing when I was in Depot Bay a couple years back.
Doesn't it also have a longer season?
Guess Lings would be few and far between.
Steve
Larger bag limits,
Lings are rare longleader fishing and if you keep one on the boat you have to quit longleader fishing.
Quote from: Swami805 on August 16, 2024, 01:29:22 PMLooks like a chili pepper.
Redstripe Rockfish.
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I also got a silvergrey.
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Quote from: Keta on August 16, 2024, 09:26:02 PMLarger bag limits,
Lings are rare longleader fishing and if you keep one on the boat you have to quit longleader fishing.
That makes sense.
good fishing Lee, thanks for posting, cheers Don.
Interesting, I am absolutely going to adapt this technique for our local fishery. We often target a species - Tarakihi - that sits typically 20-40ft off the bottom, but in the areas we catch them if you hit the bottom you will almost instantly hook an unwanted bycatch species called a Scarpie (which are actually quite delicious but infrequently of a size worth keeping). We often use an extended trace on the sinker but not to this extent, and incorporating a float at the top to keep the rig extended seems like a good addition.
Good haul!!
I can remember bags like that (for those fishers that didn't get sea sick) from trips to the farallons, 30+ years ago! And we didn't have to drop 450'. Of course some different species of fish...