Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Fin-Nor Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Tmurphdawg on August 20, 2024, 05:15:25 PM

Title: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on August 20, 2024, 05:15:25 PM
I have this 9 fin nor I am putting back together. I have followed several schematics and think I have it right but obviously don't. The reel won't turn and sounds clunky if it moves at all. I included some pics as I was putting it back together. Maybe one of you can pick something out I am either doing wrong or perhaps a piece is missing? Any help? Thanks. Tom
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: redsetta on August 21, 2024, 12:01:27 AM
Hi and welcome Tom,
It looks to me like the reel's missing the spool thrust spring, which sits between the drag plate and spool bearing, eg:

(https://alantani.com/gallery/38/3590-200824235734.png)

(Excuse the bad drawing!)
Without the spring, the drag plate sits against the spool and prevents rotation.
Hope that's of some assistance.
Let us know how you get on.
Good luck, Justin
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on August 21, 2024, 01:46:33 AM
Thanks a lot Justin. I will check it out
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: alantani on August 21, 2024, 05:46:55 PM
i haven't worked on these in years....   :-\
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on August 23, 2024, 02:24:38 AM
I'm working on finding the spring. I got two of these reels that are in the process of getting working. Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on September 04, 2024, 01:45:55 AM
I spoke with Tony sample and he graciously sent me the spring for this reel but I am still not getting anywhere. Anybody see anything I'm doing wrong 😣🤔?? The silver beveled piece is not on any schematic but came with the reel. I'm stumped
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 04, 2024, 03:06:20 AM
  Take a look at this video , it may help even tho it is a 7 ..  I never did see that stepped bushing that you were holding in your hand .
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl-W0xp892E
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: redsetta on September 05, 2024, 03:08:39 AM
Just 'cause it came with the reel, doesn't mean it belongs in it!  ;)  ;D
Encountered that meself - random parts supplied with miscellaneous reels.
Brian's schematic here:
(https://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae348/hawaiiansurfinboy/Fin-Nor%20Reels%20-%20Schematics/Fin-Nor90FNA.jpg)
Ditch the spacer and see how it all lines up.
Let us know how you get on.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 05, 2024, 06:14:36 AM
 I agree , I don`t think that stepped bushing belongs to that reel . Looks too thick and won`t let the brake come on .  I do not see it in the parts list eather .
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on September 06, 2024, 12:16:58 AM
Ok thanks for the words of encouragement. You guys are awesome. Still working on it.😣😀
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on September 06, 2024, 01:56:52 AM
Hmmmm... anybody think I have the wrong size drag lever? The reel is a 9 but if you compare the gear sizes they don't look like they match.
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 06, 2024, 02:18:05 AM
 Take a picture of the gears making love " in mesh "
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on September 06, 2024, 08:55:07 PM
I spoke to Tony Sample in North Carolina and it does seem to be the wrong drag lever. He is a gentleman to say the least and has lots of fin not parts if you don't know him. Anybody looking for fin nor parts should try him 919 699 6187. I'll keep you all posted and thanks for the help. Murph
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on September 19, 2024, 01:32:33 AM
I'm just wondering if the drag washer is toast. Can any of you see anything unusual in any of the pictures? The reel works better but I think the bushing fits into a hole in the side plate to increase pressure so the spool can come in better contact with the cork drag. How thick is the drag washer supposed to be and if it's shot any advice on fixing or replacing it?
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: jtwill98 on September 19, 2024, 05:18:37 PM
A couple of observations I made from your posts.

When you compare the gear to the one showing Dennis working on a similar reel in the posted video, the gear looks the same to me.

On the step bush issue, are you sure you didn't place it on upside down. The silver bevel thing (as you called it) looks like there's a matching ring imprint that agrees with the step on the bushing.
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on September 19, 2024, 08:36:21 PM
Yes I see what you mean. I tried it several ways. The reel sort of works now but I had to place a new bushing in the side plate. It's not quite right. I'll keep posting. Thanks
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: Tmurphdawg on September 26, 2024, 02:23:30 AM
Sort of got it to work. It's still a bit tight to reel. I believe the bearings are a bit beat up. They look pretty standard. Anybody know where to get these?
Title: Re: Fin nor 9 question and pics
Post by: thorhammer on September 26, 2024, 01:09:07 PM
Measure them and search on-line for stainless bearing in that size, or ask Dawn at Smooth Drag (on this forum).

John