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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Mrc70 on September 11, 2024, 11:43:13 PM

Title: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: Mrc70 on September 11, 2024, 11:43:13 PM
Hello all. I just installed some new smooth drag carbon fiber washer on my star drag Speedmaster. When I loosen the star drag all the way, I still have considerable drag pressure and resistance when cranking the handle. When I tighten down the star, the handle resistance goes away. Any way to correct this?
Title: Re: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: oc1 on September 11, 2024, 11:54:33 PM
The carbon fiber washers were slightly thicker than the existing washers.  You can
1) find thinner carbon fiber washers or CF sheets to cut your own. 
2) You could lap one or all of the CF washers on sandpaper to reduce their thickness.
3) You could also just remove one the carbon fiber washers and see what that gives you.
4) Just in case, you could first try holding down the spool and cranking the reel against a heavy drag until the CF seat themselves and begin to wear.
Title: Re: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: Mrc70 on September 12, 2024, 06:09:04 AM
Thank you for the info. I will give one or two of these suggestions a try.
Title: Re: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: Cor on September 12, 2024, 06:28:08 AM
Yip, agreed.   To test it replace one of the new ones with a thinner old one or any thin one and see if the problem goes away.

Title: Re: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 12, 2024, 11:14:09 AM
Usually dawns stuff is pretty spot on. Are you sure you don't have something in the wrong order? Rule out the easy stuff.
Title: Re: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: alantani on September 12, 2024, 02:51:25 PM
the drag stack is too thick.  the last time this happened to me, i was because i forgot to remove the drag washer under the main gear before adding the new one.  my bad.
Title: Re: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: Mrc70 on September 13, 2024, 12:45:23 AM
Thanks, guys. I confirmed everything was installed correctly and the old thin washers were all removed.  I'm gonna try to sand down one or two of the washers.
Title: Re: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: alantani on September 13, 2024, 01:08:12 AM
removing a small metal washer in the drag stack might be faster. 

is this your reel?  https://www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Shimano/Triton/SHIMANO%20TRITON%20SPEEDMASTER%20TSMIV(87-170).pdf
Title: Re: Speedmaster Star Drag question about new drag washers
Post by: Mrc70 on September 13, 2024, 03:59:38 AM
Quote from: alantani on September 13, 2024, 01:08:12 AMremoving a small metal washer in the drag stack might be faster. 

is this your reel?  https://www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Shimano/Triton/SHIMANO%20TRITON%20SPEEDMASTER%20TSMIV(87-170).pdf

Yep that's it.