I have a couple reels that need a little attention ,and some parts That I got from Fred .
Well one reel that I want to build is a 441 on a finessa frame , so I started the tear down ,picked out the parts that need to be change . The paint process is going to slow me down , waiting for full cure , before final assembly . A coulp pictures in the meantime
I could easily build a 441 on a 440 frame , but that is to easy . I like the embossed side plates on 285 . So the first thing to work out is making a tripper for the bail.
First picture is the stock 440 trip wedge . Second picture is a woodruff key ,that get glued with JB weld to the backing plate . After 2 hours the JB is green and you can clean up the excess with a exacto knife .
Nicely & cleverly done, Joe!
Best, Fred
Congratulations on a job well done! If there are problems with the glue, you can try a small screw with a countersunk head and a small hole. Maybe...
Nice job!!
That's going to be a nice reel. I have a couple of questions. How did you strip the paint off of it and what color are you going to paint it?
:) There is not any real pressure on the trip wedge , I don't see any problem . I think you can use just JB weld and shape it and be fine .
The stock slide is brass and aluminum block with a 2 mm screw pin . Than there is a steel slide with a 2.5 mm screw pin . I am trying to figure out how to put the bigger fuse in !!!
I don`t want any slop in the linkage I have the taps to change the shaft threads already.
Quote from: Steve V. on September 16, 2024, 03:01:20 PMThat's going to be a nice reel. I have a couple of questions. How did you strip the paint off of it and what color are you going to paint it?
I will buff off with a steel wheel , what I can easy get to . Than I drop it in a container of gas .Usually in a hours time I can wash off the rest of the paint with a small steel brush . A exacto knife gets the little detail / corners . A fresh paint job come off easy with gas !!!
I shot everything with steel metallic paint . I tried to paint the fish , the first one was a hot mess . That one got washed right away . The second one is a little better , but still not feeling it. Not sure if it`s the steel background , black background looks better . The steel color frame got washed , too many finger prints in the soft paint , so now it is back in black !
The flat, squared off South ends of the spool shafts require the softer metal connecting block.
The full-round spool shafts require the one piece slides.
And you already know this, Joe —- but for others, D-A-M made this connection slightly loose to enable a smooth cranking action with no binding or catching if too tight. But the proper connectors need to be used with the right parts, as designed by DQ.
Of course, anything can be re-engineered and adjusted —- and that is good.
I will send some spare connecting screws along with your next parts shipment going out this week. N/C. I have a few extras.
Nice paint job!
Now, Joe — your next challenge would be to make a 221N.
Best, Fred
;D I don`t have any 220n to play with ,but I would look to see if a 331N gear set would fit in that frame . If it does ,I think you would have to change the slide pin location for the stroke .
I do not know if a 221 gear set would fit in a N frame . If I had 20- 30 minutes in your shop ,going through the bins of parts ,I might find something that would work . >:D :d
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I now have a 220N on the way ,so we`ll see what is possible .
Quote from: foakes on September 16, 2024, 06:42:48 PMThe flat, squared off South ends of the spool shafts require the softer metal connecting block.
The full-round spool shafts require the one piece slides.
And you already know this, Joe —- but for others, D-A-M made this connection slightly loose to enable a smooth cranking action with no binding or catching if too tight. But the proper connectors need to be used with the right parts, as designed by DQ.
Of course, anything can be re-engineered and adjusted —- and that is good.
I will send some spare connecting screws along with your next parts shipment going out this week. N/C. I have a few extras.
Nice paint job!
Now, Joe — your next challenge would be to make a 221N.
Best, Fred
::) Ok I tried the challenge .. I can build it two ways !! Large frame is the easiest , the small frame takes a little more work but very doable ... This is the large frame version .
Small frame 221n To build this you need to do a little grinding on a 331n worm , it`s a little to long
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You also have to adjust the stroke if you use the 331 gear by .070 inboard or use a gear from a 221 and change the crank pin .
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Here is the finished fit in the crank case .
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Joe this is awesome I'm glad you followed thru, and I'm mad this didn't get more love.
Have you tried it yet? Hasn't been the best fishing conditions in this coast lately.