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Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: jgp12000 on October 07, 2024, 10:19:56 AM

Title: SIC Inserts
Post by: jgp12000 on October 07, 2024, 10:19:56 AM
I have a few rods missing guide inserts.
Are they just pressed in from the top?Also,if I measure the ID of the
guide would that be the size insert required? Is zirconium or hardaloy
Better or worser?
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: Keta on October 07, 2024, 12:13:45 PM
I have never successfully replaced inserts and now replace the entire guide.
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: Swami805 on October 07, 2024, 12:18:42 PM
Replace the guide
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: quang tran on October 07, 2024, 01:02:55 PM
Fuji SIC guides are the best ,never had insert come off .Other guides may be lighter but SIC is hardest material
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on October 07, 2024, 01:13:54 PM
That's amateur stuff. Pull and replace the guide. You know how now.
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: Cor on October 07, 2024, 01:33:53 PM
I have glued rings that have come adrift back in original inserts.   Never new inserts.
My success rate has been around 10% so it is not worth the effort.

As an emergency measure because I need the rod and don't have a spare guide available, I would still attempt it, but will immediately buy 2 new ones.

Epoxy is the more successful glue but also the more awkward to use. 
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on October 07, 2024, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: Cor on October 07, 2024, 01:33:53 PMI have glued rings that have come adrift back in original inserts.   Never new inserts.
My success rate has been around 10% so it is not worth the effort.

As an emergency measure because I need the rod and don't have a spare guide available, I would still attempt it, but will immediately buy 2 new ones.

Epoxy is the more successful glue but also the more awkward to use. 
Don't you have another old beater rod you can steal a guide from? Or maybe even a buddy has an donor rod laying around?
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: Keta on October 07, 2024, 03:08:03 PM
Mud Hole has a lot of new guides and supplies and usually ship same day.  I get things from them in less than a week and I am in a semi remote part of Oregon on the other side of the country.
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: Midway Tommy on October 07, 2024, 04:15:07 PM
You've gotten good advice this far. Guides aren't that expensive unless you go with top of the line stuff, which you would probably only use on a top of the line blank. You'll be wasting your time and effort trying to replace a ring, and it won't last that long. Just replace the guide, or the whole set if you want the rod to look uniform. Hardloy & alconite are both decent choices, they're just a little heavier, if you don't want to spring for SICs.
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: jgp12000 on October 07, 2024, 07:48:18 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on October 07, 2024, 01:13:54 PMThat's amateur stuff. Pull and replace the guide. You know how now.
Jason that's SIC ! :D
Title: Re: SIC Inserts
Post by: thorhammer on October 07, 2024, 08:04:14 PM
Hardloy was discontinued a few years ago as the other Al Ox guides got better. I've seen no need for SiC in general fishing, and have fished hardloy / hialoy / aluminum oxide since the beginning of braid and personally not had issues. Guide replacement due to banging rod on something else, not actual fishing. I'd wrap in a new guide of the aluminum oxide or alconite variety, whatever matches color, and call it a day.