Took my new LB 65 fishing this morning. I got one nice bluefish in then the reel just stopped. Got it home and discovered my problem. Guess the old plastic just didn't have any strength yet.
So my first question is, I assume the later metal spools are interchangeable with the plastic ones?
2nd question, anybody have a spare they'd want to part with? The replacements on ebay cost twice as much as a whole reel.
But hey, at least we got the fish in!
The attached shows no plastic spool for the 65, which leaves me wondering if a previous owner put in the one you broke as a "well it seems to sorta fit and work okay" replacement that was doomed to fail. All I see for the 65 is a metal 29M-65 part number spool. Are there any part numbers on the broken one?
My understanding is that the very earliest LB's (1940's?) had a plastic spool. It also had leather drag washers.
No part number that I can find.
Send me a pm with your address.
The SeaBoy 190 pool fits. $27.00 at mystic. A great upgrade is the stainless 66 stand that supports a clamp $13 at mystic and then you decide on the clamp.
The issue is, this has to be a passion project. You can literally spend hundreds of dollars on this reel, but you can buy a much better reel for much less money on the used market. To be clear, I believe in passion project and fish them often, to the chagrin on the Boss :)
If you just want to get this reel back on the water, buy the spool and give it a good service if you haven't already. If you like this spool size and want to upgrade, find an old 112H.
The Man
The Boss beat me. Yeah, use that pool and your in business.
Thanks Alan for the super fast service!
Now I'm nervous to use my 85 of the same vintage that i also just spooles up, but that's a problem for another day.
Fill the 85 almost to the top with Spectra or Daccron with 100 or so feet of mono on top of the braid, mono will blow apart the old plastic spools.
didn't figure i'd get that lucky. took a look and didn't find an 85 or 60 spool.
Quote from: elcarlstono on October 13, 2024, 08:21:48 PMThanks Alan for the super fast service!
Now I'm nervous to use my 85 of the same vintage that i also just spooles up, but that's a problem for another day.
Fish zombie says
Braaaaaaaaaaid
Quote from: alantani on October 13, 2024, 10:24:34 PMdidn't figure i'd get that lucky. took a look and didn't find an 85 or 60 spool.
The luck was all mine.
No idea when it broke but my son had just reeled in a 3-4# bluefish, which i had to handline the last 20' or so due to the planer. When we switched over to sight casting it wouldn't reel, and of course I blamed my son.
Also fished my OC 112 that also handled a similar sized blue and is making some noise afterward, but that also is problem for another day. This was the first trip for all 3 reels under my ownership, and were just serviced.
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on October 13, 2024, 11:53:41 PMQuote from: elcarlstono on October 13, 2024, 08:21:48 PMThanks Alan for the super fast service!
Now I'm nervous to use my 85 of the same vintage that i also just spooles up, but that's a problem for another day.
Fish zombie says
Braaaaaaaaaaid
How would braid solve/prevent this problem
Quote from: elcarlstono on October 14, 2024, 12:45:18 AMQuote from: JasonGotaProblem on October 13, 2024, 11:53:41 PMQuote from: elcarlstono on October 13, 2024, 08:21:48 PMThanks Alan for the super fast service!
Now I'm nervous to use my 85 of the same vintage that i also just spooles up, but that's a problem for another day.
Fish zombie says
Braaaaaaaaaaid
How would braid solve/prevent this problem
Doesn't stretch. Mono stretches.
I've seen someone pop a watermelon with rubber bands. Never seen it done with twine.
The old plastic spools were pre-mono and were designed for the old linen lines. Mono stretches and will relax when wound back on the spool putting pressure on the sidewalls of the spool. When the spool is plastic that doesn't end well! Braid doesn't stretch so doesn't expand when put back on the spool under pressure.
The 29M-60 spool is common and I might have one in my shop but I am running behind and most likely will not have time to look this week and will be fishing 10/20-10/30. I will try to get to my shop and look, if not and you do not get one before 11/2 send me a PM to remind me to look.
Interesting. I'm aware that mono stretches, but didn't consider it could put that much more compression. Sounds like its all but guaranteed that the same will happen to my 85.
Quote from: Keta on October 14, 2024, 05:33:23 AMThe 29M-60 spool is common and I might have one in my shop but I am running behind and most likely will not have time to look this week and will be fishing 10/20-10/30. I will try to get to my shop and look, if not and you do not get one before 11/2 send me a PM to remind me to look.
Thanks, Lee, absolutely no hurry.
Note, I have also seen three piece metal spools, which you are quite likely to come by for that reel, get popped by mono. Not as a bad as plastic, but possible- I put dacron or braid backing on any of those things.
All of my reels have Daccron or Spectra mainline on them but one that is 3/4 full of braid for occasionally fishing the few charter boats that are still behind the time and ban braid. Most only have 30' or less top shots of mono/fluro.
I could not find a 29M-60 spool but I found a 60 parts reel with a good spool. It is on my bench now and I will send the reel to you when I get back from fishing.
Quote from: alantani on October 13, 2024, 10:24:34 PMdidn't figure i'd get that lucky. took a look and didn't find an 85 or 60 spool.
New spool arrived today. Even got the existing line transferred (it was brand new)!
What is you guy's favorite knot for the spool post? New to that.
Thanks again!!
Quote from: elcarlstono on October 21, 2024, 07:55:16 PMQuote from: alantani on October 13, 2024, 10:24:34 PMdidn't figure i'd get that lucky. took a look and didn't find an 85 or 60 spool.
New spool arrived today. Even got the existing line transferred (it was brand new)!
What is you guy's favorite knot for the spool post? New to that.
Thanks again!!
Tie the knot around the arbor whether it has a post or not. Tie the tag end to the spool post to guarantee no slipping. If you tie your main knot to the post you better pray you never get spooled by a big'n I've seen plenty of old spools with posts snapped off.
Hope you upgraded the old original drag stack. Your lb65 is from the 1940's. The lb65 only had plastic spool from late 1941-1947. The smooth sided counterbalance on your handle dates your reel to late 1941 thru early 1946
Quote from: Maxed Out on October 21, 2024, 08:56:37 PMHope you upgraded the old original drag stack. Your lb65 is from the 1940's. The lb65 only had plastic spool from late 1941-1947. The smooth sided counterbalance on your handle dates your reel to late 1941 thru early 1946
Yes, it had leather washers in it. They were in good shape so I decided to "preserve" them and put fiber washer in for fishing.
Will this new spool hold up to mono (30#)? Having an issue with the metal spool on my Ocean City 112 that I think is mono related.
It will hold up better than the plastic spool, but still needs a good bit of dacron, maybe a 1/2", to act as a cushion.