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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: elcarlstono on November 01, 2024, 12:29:07 PM

Title: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: elcarlstono on November 01, 2024, 12:29:07 PM
Got a 112H yesterday that I hope to put into service next summer.  Only issue at this time is the handle has a bit more wobble in it than I would like, where the "stem" of the handle is fixed to the arm. Do I just simply need to peen around the brass ferrule/rivet on the arm side?
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on November 01, 2024, 12:44:12 PM
Side to side wobble or in and out? 2 different problems.
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: elcarlstono on November 01, 2024, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on November 01, 2024, 12:44:12 PMSide to side wobble or in and out? 2 different problems.
Given the nature of the issue, it's a little bit of of both, but the side-to-side is more pronounced.
Here's a little video of the problem:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ftg6bhbBsTHJ6BsV8
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: quabbin boy 62 on November 01, 2024, 01:02:59 PM
looks like you need a new handle, they're avaiable from mystic reel parts. if you really want to keep the torpedo handle, those might be available from mystic, or somebody on this site.
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: thorhammer on November 01, 2024, 01:10:56 PM
Pretty sure I have one. PM your address; I'll check this weekend. I've tried to peen these, as have others, but I'm as subtle as a flamethrower and crack the bakelite.

John
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: elcarlstono on November 01, 2024, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on November 01, 2024, 01:10:56 PMPretty sure I have one. PM your address; I'll check this weekend. I've tried to peen these, as have others, but I'm as subtle as a flamethrower and crack the bakelite.

John

Thanks John. Will do. Hope you had good fishing last month.
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on November 01, 2024, 01:26:52 PM
Ok I was picturing the gear sleeve moving. If John doesn't have a new handle for it I have a few.
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: thorhammer on November 01, 2024, 01:35:51 PM
Sent you a PM...forgot you are closer to me than my post office is, most likely...Anything else you need?
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on November 01, 2024, 01:48:03 PM
My advice would be to joyously accept johns gift of a new handle.

And also if the hole for the gear sleeve is intact, consider this as an opportunity to drill out the existing knob and add an aftermarket knob.
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: Maxed Out on November 01, 2024, 06:35:55 PM
 Lol, Thorhammer is a Penn handle hoarder....don't ask me how I know  :d
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: elcarlstono on November 01, 2024, 06:40:34 PM
I definitely plan to accept the gift. But I am curious, has anyone ever tried to solder the opening and fill the void space?  I do a lot of lantern and camp stove repair so I've gotten pretty good at it.
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on November 01, 2024, 06:55:34 PM
Quote from: elcarlstono on November 01, 2024, 06:40:34 PMI definitely plan to accept the gift. But I am curious, has anyone ever tried to solder the opening and fill the void space?  I do a lot of lantern and camp stove repair so I've gotten pretty good at it.
Do those lanterns have parts that need to spin freely? Miss by just a little bit and it won't spin anymore.

But what the heck, by all means try. You already have an already non-functional part to test it on, and the equipment to do it. You've got nothing whatsoever to lose.
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: elcarlstono on November 01, 2024, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on November 01, 2024, 06:55:34 PMDo those lanterns have parts that need to spin freely? Miss by just a little bit and it won't spin anymore.

But what the heck, by all means try. You already have an already non-functional part to test it on, and the equipment to do it. You've got nothing whatsoever to lose.
Correct, I have to take care and not solder too much.  Biggest issue will be getting it clean enough for the solder to flow.  Is there an easy way to get the knob off and back on? 
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on November 01, 2024, 08:11:05 PM
If you grind off the "mushroom" you can yank it out. Some people drill all the way thru. No harm in it. I don't bother cutting unnecessary metal so I grind it off. I've done it about 20 different ways. the best  uses what you have available. My preference is to use my bench grinder to remove as much of the mushroom as I can, and when I get closer to the handle I switch to an engraving bit on the Dremel. You can tape to prevent scratches but there's a washer going under the screw anyway and that covers even the worst scratches.
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: oldmanjoe on November 01, 2024, 09:25:32 PM
A possible fix .   https://alantani.com/index.php/topic,31162.0.html
Title: Re: 112H with handle wobble
Post by: Bill B on November 01, 2024, 10:19:46 PM
Joe, totally forgot about your repair.  I set it as a Stickied Thread.  Bill