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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Ambassadeur Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: pointbob on November 16, 2024, 12:08:53 AM

Title: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: pointbob on November 16, 2024, 12:08:53 AM
Hey all. Just stumbled accross the BEAST lol. It's green and model number 5600HD. Something about "super brass gearing". Anyways it's a pretty expensive. Just wondering if it's much beefier then a stock 5600C4; and any other worthwhile differences for all that extra money. Thanks

https://www.abugarcia-fishing.eu/products/ambassadeurbeast-hd-reel-1556391

Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: akfish on November 16, 2024, 11:20:48 AM
I haven't seen this reel, but I do know that the regular 5600C4 simply cna'tstand up to big fish. Some people up here use them with 50 or even 65# braid for salmon and fry the gears when the frame torques under heavy drag. Whether it's worth them money depends on how much you like Ambassadeurs.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: mikeysm on November 16, 2024, 02:18:27 PM
I have one of the first Abu Beast. Its a remake of the Abu Inshore. It is a much stronger version of the 6500. Because of the price people shy away from it. It took some time to tune it and various upgrades to get it where I wanted it. The spool shaft and other parts are coated with a special ceramic coating. Time will only tell if it will last over time.

Mike
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on November 16, 2024, 03:44:50 PM
Is the shaft to brake plate attachment stronger?
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: sabaman1 on November 16, 2024, 06:41:08 PM
Bob, for the price you could get a Daiwa Lexa 400 hd low profile and catch yellowtail and tuna if that was your idea of catching large fish?
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: pointbob on November 16, 2024, 07:28:20 PM
Quote from: mikeysm on November 16, 2024, 02:18:27 PMI have one of the first Abu Beast. Its a remake of the Abu Inshore. It is a much stronger version of the 6500. Because of the price people shy away from it. It took some time to tune it and various upgrades to get it where I wanted it. The spool shaft and other parts are coated with a special ceramic coating. Time will only tell if it will last over time.

Mike

I totally forgot about the inshore. That's actually an amazing value these days used. However I'm assuming the line guide does not or does move back and forth while the reel is infree spool/casting?
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: mikeysm on November 16, 2024, 08:06:14 PM
The line guide moves in freespool. I took the stainless steel gears from a inshore and they worked out perfectly. I have a aluminum idler gear. I also installed a ceramic line guide. I has the same bridge as all the other reels.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: pointbob on November 16, 2024, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: mikeysm on November 16, 2024, 08:06:14 PMThe line guide moves in freespool. I took the stainless steel gears from a inshore and they worked out perfectly. I have a aluminum idler gear. I also installed a ceramic line guide. I has the same bridge as all the other reels.

Great tip about the steel gears. Thanks. Shame the beast has only 3 bearings; I guess an upgrade is in order.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: mikeysm on November 16, 2024, 11:58:46 PM
I have bearings everywhere. More than three. The idler gear and the line guide shaft. The handle knobs. Both sides of the spool. And the shaft sleeve.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: Swami805 on November 17, 2024, 01:30:51 AM
Wow, that's really an impressive reel. What kind of line is on it? Tournament ande?
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: whalebreath on November 17, 2024, 06:05:54 AM
Have seen a used one For Sale locally the price has dropped from $C500 to $C350 or so-Thanks for the intel.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: mikeysm on November 17, 2024, 12:02:59 PM
I think its ande 20lb. I only use ande on my reels unless I use braid.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: nelz on November 18, 2024, 03:20:42 AM
Quote from: pointbob on November 16, 2024, 12:08:53 AMHey all. Just stumbled accross the BEAST lol. It's green and model number 5600HD. Something about "super brass gearing". Anyways it's a pretty expensive. Just wondering if it's much beefier then a stock 5600C4; and any other worthwhile differences for all that extra money. Thanks

From what I found, it's a one bearing reel, so not a bunch of bearings to worry about maintaining, and has dual anti-reverse. It is much stronger than a C4 (which has a bad reputation). Worth the money? I can think of better options for less.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: whalebreath on November 18, 2024, 03:38:16 AM
Quote from: nelz on November 18, 2024, 03:20:42 AM...Worth the money? I can think of better options for less.
That's what I thought when researching it first I saw one-so many options now.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: mikeysm on November 18, 2024, 12:32:34 PM
I dont know about the newer reels but mine is full of bearings.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: thorhammer on November 18, 2024, 12:37:46 PM
Nice reel, Mike.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: nelz on November 18, 2024, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: mikeysm on November 18, 2024, 12:32:34 PMI dont know about the newer reels but mine is full of bearings.

Yes, but this one is a different model. Yours is much better and it has those cool graphics too.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: mikeysm on November 18, 2024, 08:13:52 PM
I added custom parts including special side plate screws from the UK. A aluminum idler and a ceramic Paul. I changed the brake pieces to tune the backlash and ceramic bearings. The trick was installing stainless gears and were very hard to find.
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: pointbob on November 19, 2024, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: mikeysm on November 18, 2024, 08:13:52 PMI added custom parts including special side plate screws from the UK. A aluminum idler and a ceramic Paul. I changed the brake pieces to tune the backlash and ceramic bearings. The trick was installing stainless gears and were very hard to find.

so basically i need to geta used revo to harvest for the steel gears?
Title: Re: What is this Beast? The Abu 5600HD BEAST reel.
Post by: mikeysm on November 19, 2024, 06:31:11 PM
No idea i dont own a revo.