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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Abu Garcia/Garcia/Mitchell => Abu-Garcia => Topic started by: jgp12000 on December 12, 2024, 07:21:23 PM

Title: Date this reel?
Post by: jgp12000 on December 12, 2024, 07:21:23 PM
I can get it,just wondered what it is & does anyone have parts?

Tommy or Fred have the answer :al
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: jgp12000 on December 12, 2024, 08:00:26 PM
drum roll or crickets chirping-Fred's honeymooning so I guess it's up to Tom  :cf
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: Gfish on December 12, 2024, 09:45:05 PM
Interesting. A rear drag. Any model # anywhere? Fred is gone for a-while. Garcia came into the picture maybe in the "50's.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 12, 2024, 09:48:54 PM
Matchmaker James. Has a decent ring to it.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: jgp12000 on December 12, 2024, 11:10:39 PM
I haven't got it yet Gregg, I think before Cardinals came out like u sed
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on December 13, 2024, 12:43:41 AM
After doing some searching looks like it's possibly an Abu Garcia 444. There's a sold listing on eBay it just says 1950s Abu Garcia spinning reel. so then I googled when did Abu Garcia release their first spinning reel and it was in 1955. And lo and behold there was a picture of your reel.

Edit: just put my cheaters on, and may not be the exact same  one but very similar.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on December 13, 2024, 12:51:52 AM
Also, just found this thread here
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on December 13, 2024, 12:57:04 AM
According to Fred it was a cooperative effort between Charles Garcia and Abu and only made for three or four years!
Definitely looks like the same reel to me and do believe you'll find all the info you need in that thread.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: jgp12000 on December 13, 2024, 12:58:10 AM
Thank you
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on December 13, 2024, 12:59:39 AM
https://alantani.com/index.php/topic,22859.0.html
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: thorhammer on December 13, 2024, 01:50:57 AM
Good forensic accounting, EA.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 13, 2024, 06:18:19 AM
Pretty much a complete history of the ABU Garcia & ABU 444 (which are the same reel other than the lettering on side plate) is in that link/discussion mentioned above.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on December 13, 2024, 06:49:47 AM
Quote from: jgp12000 on December 13, 2024, 12:58:10 AMThank you
Not a problem at all brother.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: Gfish on December 13, 2024, 02:58:10 PM
No worm gear drive. Interested to see how it compares to a Zebco(Abu) cardinal.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: jgp12000 on December 17, 2024, 03:16:21 PM
Will a Cardinal 4 spool fit this reel if needed?
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 17, 2024, 05:34:59 PM
No, but if my memory serves right the Cardinal 6 might, or at least is very close. I'd have to pull a couple out to try them.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: jgp12000 on December 19, 2024, 03:45:49 PM
I got some more pix from the seller, it was from a Martha's Vineyard Fishing Derby in 1958, no telling who used it?
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Post by: Midway Tommy on December 19, 2024, 04:29:57 PM
It would be cool to know who all fished the derby and won the reel. They were actually prizes given to some participants/placers. I wonder if there are any old records stored away somewhere.
Title: Re: Date this reel?
Post by: jgp12000 on December 19, 2024, 07:50:06 PM
https://www.mvderby.com/history/pastwinners/46_80.php