Lazy here, I know someone already has a 5000 walk-thru on here,maybe save me time looking with the link :o ?
I got 2-5000s on the way & would like to read up on it before they arrive.I have never tore into my 6500c3(new) or 4600c4 Royal Express,no need to yet.
It's stickied in the Abu section. If you decide to upgrade to bearings, be dang sure you mic them. There are different sizes that may be there depending on vintage. If 3x10x4, no issue, but the 60's models can have 3.125x10x4 which are hard to find without going a more expensive Boca route.
It's under 'Ambassadeur rebuild by Carolina Custom reels", so not readily apparent. I have been in that wormhole the last few months, and have another 6000 and 6500 on the way...
Who are the Ambassadeur gurus on here?
Tincanary comes to mind although there's other members who could help
No guru here. For me it's a "take your time" reel. I have a user '73 5000, a user '68 9000, an early '80's Ultra Mag Plus and a modern Revo-Toro- Beast. Even though the 9000 has no levelwinder, it still is like the others; many parts to deal with. Pay special attention to the drag stack arrangement and the spring orientation on the brake plate.
I may fish the worser looking of the 2 & shelfie the prettier one.I guess it's not rocket science, I try to take pictures just in case I get interrupted during the process I don't forget
I don't find ambassadeur reels to be any more difficult than a jigmaster it's just different. No videos to offer though.
The backstop for the anti reverse on the early ones is the sideplate. So if you turn the gear sleeve the wrong way before it's assembled you have to disassemble again.
The trip mechanism to put it back in gear when the handle is turned is complicated, by a double throw, but less reliable than most reels. Over-engineered if you ask me.
Quote from: jgp12000 on December 23, 2024, 03:12:53 PMWho are the Ambassadeur gurus on here?
Ask away sir. :cf
This:
https://alantani.com/index.php/topic,39353.msg464097.html#msg464097
Question #2
There are 2 small holes on the end of the handle knob(brass part)are they for oil? One knob didn't spin good I squirted some Lucas reel oil in both holes,now it does.
Question #3
Old coworker referred to the brake blocks as magnets,are they magnets or just brake blocks?
Question #4
Is the spool control set by only the tail plate knob(numbers) or a combination of both knobs? The brake blocks are on the handle side explain the science?
#2 probably.
#3 they are plastic. I don't think they're more magnetic than normal plastic. It's a friction brake.
#4 on an oldie the handle side knob is for centering the tail plate knob is cast control. On a C3 the handle side knob is cast control and there's no tail plate knob.
Quote from: jgp12000 on December 26, 2024, 11:27:33 AMThere are 2 small holes on the end of the handle knob(brass part)are they for oil?
I haven't a clue what holes you're talking about! Let's see a photo.
Why are the brake blocks on the handle side? I'm guessing the brake plate was a convenient and available location to attach the friction ring rather than having to engineer a place for it on the tail plate.
What Jason said for the rest.
James's reel has a double handle, so has lube ports
Thumb screws are on handle side. Most reels put the brake on the side that's easier to open, likely so they can be cleaned and adjusted more easily.
If they could put the brake on the tail plate, then the brake blocks would be a lot less likely to dive into the carpet. It's difficult enough to get everything lined up when seating the head plate without worrying about keeping it exactly horizontal at all times.
Where to buy brake blocks if you need them? I serviced this reel & don't plan on tearing it down anytime soon.I got another
One on the way for $30 looks ever better,I couldn't resist that price,I was the only bidder
e replacement parts, but expensive for a dot of plastic. The bay possibly, or Fred says DQ blocks work.
Are you looking for the newer style plastic blocks or the older style Bakelite? I'm sure I have plastic blocks in my bin. As for Bakelite, I don't have any, but you can make your own from the red straws that come on oils and penetrating fluids, like WD40 for instance. Just use a razor to cut the size you need.
They don't have to be Bakelite,I just want some for backup. I am going to shelfie the best looking of the two 5000s & fish with the other.
Quote from: thorhammer on December 26, 2024, 09:53:53 PMJames's reel has a double handle, so has lube ports
I don't see any ports on that handle type either. But no photo was provided, so I'm done with it.
I got a chance to take a photo of the handle knob lube ports.The 2nd 5000 arrived,it actually was a 3 screw model & that 2 knob handle does not have lube ports.
The 3 screw 5000 was missing one brake block,I would like to get 2 sets if you have some Rob or anyone else,PM me for payment arrangements?
Rob,
I sent you a PM.
Thank you,
James
You are aware, James, that the 8312.. (I don't remember the last two digits) reel is most likely a Dec 1983 vintage model?
Quote from: jgp12000 on December 28, 2024, 12:46:16 PMI got a chance to take a photo of the handle knob lube ports.The 2nd 5000 arrived,it actually was a 3 screw model & that 2 knob handle does not have lube ports.
This is a first for me, never seen it before. To me however, they don't look like lube ports, but rather like something for a tool to grab on to for twisting. Can you tell if the knob is riveted or screwed on?
It's riveted one knob would barely turn until I oiled it?
Ok Tom,I knew the 3 screw was newer wasn't sure on the year on reel 831204 ?
Quote from: nelz on December 28, 2024, 06:15:53 PMQuote from: jgp12000 on December 28, 2024, 12:46:16 PMI got a chance to take a photo of the handle knob lube ports.The 2nd 5000 arrived,it actually was a 3 screw model & that 2 knob handle does not have lube ports.
This is a first for me, never seen it before. To me however, they don't look like lube ports, but rather like something for a tool to grab on to for twisting. Can you tell if the knob is riveted or screwed on?
Looks to me like tiny spanner wrench holes that would possibly allow removal of a knob retainer bolt/screw.
That makes sense,not sure there would be a need for 2 holes lube wise?
Quote from: jgp12000 on December 28, 2024, 06:23:31 PMOk Tom,I knew the 3 screw was newer wasn't sure on the year on reel 831204 ?
So the 831204 is a 3 screw? I thought you had said it was 4 ?
The seller did in his description, its actually a 3 screw live action turtle man
So then Tom is right about the date. I didn't figure that since you had said it was 4 screws.