Scientists brought this species of wolf back from extinction. They went extinct 13,000 years ago.
Hearing this news, I have a request to bring back the sabre tooth salmon, which went extinct many thousands of years ago.
The sabre tooth salmon was native to California, and would reach length of over 9' and weight of 400+ pounds !! Just imagine a cow salmon !!
Thanks Ted, yes it is amaising what there doing with DNA, these days, cheers Don.
:-\ Will It eat people ? >:D :d
Turn them loose in SF.
No time to get too excited; I am not sure the that they bought an extinct species back from the dead; what they did was some amazing science and resurrected the DNA of an extinct species. Much like the guys who made a fuzzy mouse (no, its not going to become a Woolly Mammoth). Once a month we go to UCR Science Night at a local coffee house, and sometimes they are pretty good (meaning I can understand some of what these kids are saying). One of my favorites (keep in mind UCR is a Citrus science place) that pretty much all citrus as we know it has decended from 5 or 7 parent varieties (in his words, "this is the stuff that highly funded pHd guys argues over). Amazing. Stuff like "chromosome hopping". - john
The problem with all the Colossal Biosciences stuff is that, after all these centuries, there is no clear definition of what constitutes a species. The world of taxonomy is full of "lumpers" and splitters" who have been arguing about such stuff since Linneaus. For a while they thought that DNA analysis would put it all to rest. But, no. Every DNA sample is different, and it becomes a matter of degrees.
Most our taxonomy pre-DNA comes from getting different animals to get it on, and seeing if it results in pregnancy, and if so, is the offspring sterile.
A lot of this stuff is great for headlines. But will there actually be a proper dire wolf? We'll see.
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on April 10, 2025, 10:56:05 AMand if so, is the offspring sterile.
Yes, one of the things I learned is that citrus (and other fruit trees) are like that. I had a thought to send another one of our Ohana some seeds from my lemon tree, but what I learned was that there would be a limited number of outcomes: he might get a tree to grow that never bears fruit, or he may get a tree to grow that bears an entirely different variety since most citrus is from grafting. We have the parent Washington Naval Orange tree still growing here in Riverside. - john
I used to go to UCR for conferences to get continuing education hours to keep certifications. Their collections of citrus is crazy, it's maintaining all those trees so the genetics aren't lost. They do very important work there, the first line of defense against imported plant pathogens and insects
I believe the 'wooly mouse' and the 'dire wolf' were both from Colossal?
I think you're right re: it being a modest genetic adaptation to what is - for all intents and purposes - still a gray wolf, but it seems to have been a terrific attention-getter.
It's a pity really, because they recently bred a litter of US red wolves which have sufficient genetic diversity (through Colossal's techniques) to genuinely add to the gene pool of the 20 or so remaining individuals.
It's a legitimate step towards saving the red wolf from extinction, but clearly not as sensational as a 'dire wolf'...
'Tis all fascinating stuff really.
Hope yer all keeping well.
Cheers, Justin
In the Harvey area of Western Australia, most of the citrus is grafted onto a tryfoliater route stock, me not quite sure of my spelling of tryfoliater route stock, cheers Don.
Quote from: Donnyboat on April 10, 2025, 11:41:41 PMIn the Harvey area of Western Australia, most of the citrus is grafted onto a tryfoliater route stock, me not quite sure of my spelling of tryfoliater route stock, cheers Don.
Don - One thing I learned is that the origin of pretty much all citrus is China/SE Asia, so it makes sense there would be plenty of citrus varieties in Australia. - john
Quote from: Donnyboat on April 10, 2025, 11:41:41 PMIn the Harvey area of Western Australia, most of the citrus is grafted onto a tryfoliater route stock, me not quite sure of my spelling of tryfoliater route stock, cheers Don.
My grandmother had an orange tree that was killed back in an unusual cold snap and regrew from the root stock instead of the graft. They were terrible sour oranges but she kept the tree for the shade.
Well, if they eat bears, Lee might be right. They might do well in SF. As to the citrus, according to the John McPhee book "Oranges" most commercial oranges are grafted onto either sour orange or rough lemon stock.
Jack
I want to see those big flying bird like things, now that would be ...
Quote from: Gobi King on April 11, 2025, 04:34:19 PMI want to see those big flying bird like things, now that would be ...
Come to Florida . We call them Mosquito .
Sorry back to citrus, they use about 4 different route stocks here, trifoliarter in lomi soil, and anouther in clay soils, and another that I know of is citronel, for sandy soils, cant think of the 4 one, I did graft onto cittronel , I was told most of the fruit will be very sower, but maybe I left owers on the tree much longer as it was the sweetest citrus I have ever tasted, cheers Don.
Thanks Don! I will have to look up those variaties. - john
If patching 20 or so stands of Dire Wolf DNA into a gray wolf is recreating a species, then humans with 2-3% Neanderthal DNA are Neanderthals!
Quote from: Brewcrafter on April 10, 2025, 01:56:28 PMQuote from: JasonGotaProblem on April 10, 2025, 10:56:05 AMand if so, is the offspring sterile.
Yes, one of the things I learned is that citrus (and other fruit trees) are like that. I had a thought to send another one of our Ohana some seeds from my lemon tree, but what I learned was that there would be a limited number of outcomes: he might get a tree to grow that never bears fruit, or he may get a tree to grow that bears an entirely different variety since most citrus is from grafting. We have the parent Washington Naval Orange tree still growing here in Riverside. - john
Seen a interview from a seed breeder about plant tissue culture of hops they can now wipe clean any dna to the original strain,,,, :o any unwanted cross or gmo,,,, ;) so we can go back to the original i can remember when tommados tasted good,,,, ;D
Quote from: oldmanjoe on April 11, 2025, 06:22:06 PMQuote from: Gobi King on April 11, 2025, 04:34:19 PMI want to see those big flying bird like things, now that would be ...
Come to Florida . We call them Mosquito .
Probably deadlier ;D
Quote from: Benni3 on April 12, 2025, 03:35:09 AMSeen a interview from a seed breeder about plant tissue culture and hops they can now wipe clean any dna to the original strain
Benni you just gave me an instant migraine...hop agriculture is...ruthless. Diploids, triploids, good God. And I was routinely using stuff that didn't even have a name, just a number like HMC80. Hops are fun... I miss that part of the job. - john
Quote from: Brewcrafter on April 12, 2025, 04:57:08 AMQuote from: Benni3 on April 12, 2025, 03:35:09 AMSeen a interview from a seed breeder about plant tissue culture and hops they can now wipe clean any dna to the original strain
Benni you just gave me an instant migraine...hop agriculture is...ruthless. Diploids, triploids, good God. And I was routinely using stuff that didn't even have a name, just a number like HMC80. Hops are fun... I miss that part of the job. - john
And now there infected with hlvd,,,,,