Working on a Penn 6/0 and the main gear was tight on the gear sleeve. As I pulled on the main gear to get it off the sleeve, the main gear separated from the bushing inside the main gear. Question 1: Can I just press the bushing back into the main gear and use as is, or will the loose bushing cause problems? Question 2: The gear sleeve looks slightly grooved. Any problems if I just file and sand it down to get it smoother? Thanks!
First off is your reel a 6/0 114 or 6/0 114H? They have different gear ratios. Once that's determined I would plan on replacing the bridge with sleeve, the main gear and the shim that belongs under it and the pinion gear. However having said that if you post pictures of all of those parts you may get opinions on what can be salvaged and not replaced. It's pricey buying all those parts "as new" but you can probably get all, good, used for under $100. Penn 6/0 reels are beasts and well worth spending time and money refurbishing them.
On the other hand a very trustworthy member named Gfish recently had a tricked up 114H wide for under a hundred shipped. PM Gfish for details.
Hope this helps.
OR
Thanks OR, it's the 114H, and I'm servicing it as a favor for a friend of a friend. If it was mine, I'd replace the gear and sleeve with SS. The main gear looks fine, but I've never seen the bushing/spacer pop out. I pressed it back in, and it seems fine. I did take some very fine Emory cloth to the gear sleeve to smooth it out. It wasn't as bad as it looked: has one small scored area around the sleeve, slightly above the top of the main gear, but I'm thinking it's ok to use as is too. Trying to do this for free, but as my wife likes to remind me "No good deed goes unpunished." :)
Yes just press it back in.
Todd
Thanks Todd. It's all reassembled and feels fine. Plan to freshen up line, test the drag, and get it back to him.
That gear-sleeve looks pretty bad. Probably no issues, but interested to know after you use it.
Press it back on. Been there, done that.
You heard from 3 of the best! Press it and run it. Bill
:-\ What is that ringing on the gear sleeve ?
Yeah. Is that from the metal drag washers? Maybe they used some with an oversized i.d.?
It looks like salt build up scoring the gearsleve, the drag surface of the gear is also pitted from exposure to salt.
If I was working on this reel for a customer i would suggest the gears and gearsleve should be replaced however the pinion gears are no longer available, the main gears are $32 and the stock gearsleves are $27. In your case it appears the owner wants to go cheep/smart.
When I got the reel, the drag star was hammered down tight. Also the metal washers in the drag stack were not in any kind of order, including a metal washer at the bottom of the stack against the main gear. G, there may have been a thin wavy washer on top of the drag stack causing the scoring. It was pretty mucked up, and definitely salt inside as Keta said. The servicing was a favor, no charge, for my fishing buddy's friend. Owner knows the issues but didn't want to put any $ into it. Reel will still catch fish so...
Metal washer at the bottom of the stack inside the main gear was most likely to keep the delrin bushing in place in the main gear. Any of the Penn main gears with delrin bushings in them are junk. I've seen loose ones in Senators, GT320s, the smaller Penn conventionals. Main gears used to be solid marine brass or steel or either of those two materials with bronze bushings peened in place. Current gears made out of WKW (who knows what) have the delrin bushings peened in place also for whatever that is worth in plastic.
Just one of the many things private equity has done to cheapen a once illustrious product.
Todays Senators are sort of like their reel life namesake - cost a lot more than they used to but don't work like they once did.