Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Welcome! => Welcome! => Topic started by: Coffee on July 10, 2025, 07:21:43 PM

Title: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on July 10, 2025, 07:21:43 PM
I'm a new member
I have a question
I have a Ashaway surf slip caster.
Im trying to remove the rotor.
Is the rotor threaded on the pinion shaft? Is it a right hand thread or a left hand thread?
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Keta on July 10, 2025, 07:38:58 PM
I am no help on this but hi.
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: alantani on July 10, 2025, 07:54:08 PM
i've never even seen one.  can you post a photo of how far you've gotten?
Title: Ashaway surf slip caster
Post by: Coffee on July 10, 2025, 09:01:00 PM
Yes I will Alan.
I'm not tech savvy so pictures might take a minute.
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Brewcrafter on July 10, 2025, 09:08:48 PM
Welcome Coffee from the SoCal Inland Empire!  Looking forward to learning about a new reel! - john
Title: Re: Ashaway surf slip caster
Post by: alantani on July 10, 2025, 10:10:17 PM
typically, the rotor is held on with a hex nut.  the nuts can be left handed or right.  i'm working on a stella right now, and the hex nut is left handed.  you just have to apply a little pressure to get it to budge, paying attention to whether it tightens or loosens. :-\
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on July 10, 2025, 10:25:15 PM
Here are some pictures Alan.
No nut on the rotor side.
No e or c clip on the spur gear side.
I'm almost confident it threads on the spur gear shaft, but I want to be sure before i apply too much force.
Thank you for any help. Coffee
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: oc1 on July 10, 2025, 10:52:47 PM
I didn't know that Ashaway made or put their name on reels.  They were a pioneering company in the line and twine industry.  Among other things, they were the first to braid fishing line from natural silk and other fibers.  Before that, all fishing line was twisted.  They were also the first to use Dupont nylon to make fishing line.  Things have not been the same since. Heavy duty Ashaway nylon line was the still the favorite of fishermen I grew up with in the 1960's but knock-offs were starting to appear.  Ashaway is still around today after 200 years but they are out of the fishing line business and now concentrate on racket strings (tennis and other).
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on July 10, 2025, 11:06:52 PM
The Ashaway reels were made by
The Ohio Tool Company. They also made the same reel.
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Donnyboat on July 10, 2025, 11:31:50 PM
Hi Coffee, now you have it dismantled that far, the the rotor should come forward, it may also have the pinion with it, very simular to the large mitchell reels, and Welcome from Sunny Western Australia, cheers Don, o by the way, what blend.
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: alantani on July 10, 2025, 11:34:31 PM
if you can remove everything that is plastic or wood, then you might have to hit it with a propane torch.  normally, i mentally count to 20 and then try to muscle it.  this might take two or three sessions with a torch.  not sure if you can get a strap wrench around the rotor. 

whichever way the rotor turns, that direction is how it will twist off. 
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: alantani on July 10, 2025, 11:45:10 PM
To avoid damage to the soft brass gears, find a expanding anchor bolt to fit inside the pinion gear,  then you can try to muscle off the rotor without putting pressure on the gear teeth.
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on July 11, 2025, 12:09:38 AM
I think the heat and the anchor bolt are going to do it. 
The gears are what I'm worried about.
I was putting quite a bit of pressure on them earlier. I'm surprised I didn't break a tooth or two.
Thank you everyone for your patience and your knowledge.
I will let you know how it goes. 
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: alantani on July 11, 2025, 12:16:14 AM
yup.  use the anchor bolt to protect the gear teeth.  good luck!!!
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: oldmanjoe on July 11, 2025, 12:36:41 AM
  As a general statement , your rotor looks to  wind in a counter clock rotation ,  therefore it should come off in a clockwise  rotation .  Think as it as it will tighten under load .   If it turns in a clockwise rotation to take up line , than it will be counterclockwise rotation to remove .   
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: quang tran on July 11, 2025, 03:09:20 AM
I think it was press in not screw in
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: alantani on July 11, 2025, 04:53:01 AM
Quote from: quang tran on July 11, 2025, 03:09:20 AMI think it was press in not screw in

ugghhh!  that would be worse!!!
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: oc1 on July 11, 2025, 06:08:32 AM
I wouldn't worry about getting the rotor.  All the coolness lies in getting the bail release thing working. 
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on July 13, 2025, 03:25:15 PM
Ok Alan, I'm back on this reel again.
This project started out as a fix on the anti-reverse.
To get at the anti reverse, the whole reel has to be disassembled. Go figure.
I was able to get the rotor off, it is a clockwise rotation. No damage to brass gears, but what a pain.
Next I had to press out the bushing and pinion gear together, this step was simple in it self. A c-clamp a small socket on the spur gear and a large socket on the other side to let the bushing and gear slide out the other side. All this just to get at the anti reverse dog. The old grease turned solid preventing the dog from operating properly. WOW!!! There are not very many parts to this reel, fairly simple in design and operation. Nothing like the feurer brothers 202.
I cleaned all parts. Getting ready to reassemble. I will post pictures of the disassembly and reassembly.
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on July 13, 2025, 05:20:08 PM
Quick summary,
Remove spool
Remove rotor, clockwise rotation
Press out pinion gear and bushing together.
Remove handle
Remove spur gear
Remove anti reverse dog
Clean all parts including screws
Reassemble in reverse order using synthetic grease and synthetic oil.
This reel works wonderfully.
The gears didn't have any wave over.
The anti reverse has no play/ no adjustment at all. It has to be perfect in order for it to work correctly.
Thank you for your help Alan, expanding j bolt worked great.
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Midway Tommy on July 13, 2025, 05:24:31 PM
Well done, Coffee, it cleaned up nicely! 👍

If you haven't come across it yet, I did a total break down of a FB202 Flip Reel a few years back. You can read about it here https://alantani.com/index.php?msg=266571
& here https://alantani.com/index.php?msg=266605.
That was quite an interesting dis/re assembly. 😀
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on July 13, 2025, 06:30:31 PM
I did come across your  fb202 break down post.
When I first removed the side plate and seen all the gears I just laughed and put the cover back on.
Did some research, and found your post.
Thats what gave me the incentive to take mine apart and clean it up.
It is a new old stock or mint on box reel.
It was completely seized up from sitting for so many years. I'm sure you know about the old grease that was used way back then, after it sits for so long it becomes glue.
The steps on that reel were more time consuming. I haven't worked on a reel with so many gears or moving parts involved. 
I had a lot of fun getting that one to work again.
Very unique and unusual reel.
I guess when a person got tired of reeling forward they would just simply start reeling backwards.  lol.
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: alantani on July 16, 2025, 11:56:02 PM
glad it worked out!!!
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Brewcrafter on July 17, 2025, 02:04:15 AM
Nice job Coffee!  That's the great thing about this site - even on the off the wall reels you will likely find someone that has one and has serviced it.  Are you gonna fish this one?  Let's see some "on the water" photos!  And it doesn't have to be a state citation record fish - anything counts here! - john
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Keta on July 17, 2025, 03:00:04 PM
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Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on August 02, 2025, 06:05:43 PM
Quote from: Coffee on July 10, 2025, 07:21:43 PMI'm a new member
I have a question
I have a Ashaway surf slip caster.
Im trying to remove the rotor.
Is the rotor threaded on the pinion shaft? Is it a right hand thread or a left hand thread?
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Coffee on August 02, 2025, 06:14:29 PM
Hi everyone again.
I'm trying to figure out how to create a new post. I'm not very computer savvy.
So I'm adding this to my first post.
Found this reel in a box with many other Reels. As soon as I figure out how to post pictures again.
Can anyone identify this reel?
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: Keta on August 02, 2025, 06:20:08 PM
Right hand on the sub board below the sub board name, "user action".  Then hit "new topic".
Title: Re: Hello everyone,
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on August 02, 2025, 07:53:27 PM
Why create multiple threads? People will see this.