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Title: Making Dirt
Post by: jgp12000 on December 20, 2025, 10:50:56 AM
I have some low wet spots on the land & started filling in with dead trees & limbs.If you guys watch "Homestead Rescue" Marty Rainey does this so why buy dirt? Some of the logs disintegrate when I tap them with the bucket others may take awhile to rot.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Keta on December 20, 2025, 01:48:39 PM
It will work however when they break down you will have to put more in to come up to grade.   If you add lawn clippings and ground up leaves it will break down faster.  I mow the leaves to break them up and with the grass mixed in they are garden ready compost in less than a year.

 

Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Alan M on December 20, 2025, 06:12:01 PM
I suggest researching: Hugelkultur.

Documents what both of you are doing.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 20, 2025, 06:23:39 PM
Adding fertilizer/nitrogen to the raw leaf and grass clipping piles will help them deteriorate faster. No matter what anyone tells you, though, there aren't a whole lot of nutrients in tree rot/saw dust, but they will help keep the termites away from the house.  ;)
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Keta on December 20, 2025, 08:07:10 PM
Wood promotes fungus growth and fungus helps break down the nutrients in the soil so plants can use them. 

Biochar helps hold moisture and slows down nutrent leaching.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Swami805 on December 20, 2025, 08:10:11 PM
There's not nutrition in green waste except for carbon, the most important building block for life. Keep it up, your soil will thank you for it
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 20, 2025, 09:22:05 PM
Can I suggest picking one spot out of the way and digging dirt from there to fill in the rest, and then filling that one spot in with whatever and not worrying about it.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: foakes on December 20, 2025, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on December 20, 2025, 09:22:05 PMCan I suggest picking one spot out of the way and digging dirt from there to fill in the rest, and then filling that one spot in with whatever and not worrying about it.

Great idea, Jason!  Best, Fred
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: jgp12000 on December 20, 2025, 10:14:46 PM
Sure
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Keta on December 20, 2025, 10:18:59 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on December 20, 2025, 08:10:11 PMThere's not nutrition in green waste except for carbon, the most important building block for life. Keep it up, your soil will thank you for it

Alfalfa, clover, buckwheat and several other plants  add nitrogen to the soil.  Aspen trees do to.

When we had sheep we heavily mulched our soil with moldy alfalfa and had a massive composit pile.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: oc1 on December 21, 2025, 05:34:44 AM
A swamp or bog is just a low spot in the terrain that keeps filling up with organic matter and water.  Once the wood and leaves are waterlogged the decay microbes use up all the free oxygen and the rate of decomposition declines dramatically.  Some decay organisms can operate at a much reduced rate as long as they can scavenge oxygen from things like nitrate of and sulfate but they soon run out of these things as well.

All this is why you have to turn a compost pile to keep decomposition going.  This is also why a swamp or bog is the very best place to preserve wood for millennia so it can be dug up later by archaeologists.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Benni3 on December 21, 2025, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: oc1 on December 21, 2025, 05:34:44 AMA swamp or bog is just a low spot in the terrain that keeps filling up with organic matter and water.  Once the wood and leaves are waterlogged the decay microbes use up all the free oxygen and the rate of decomposition declines dramatically.  Some decay organisms can operate at a much reduced rate as long as they can scavenge oxygen from things like nitrate of and sulfate but they soon run out of these things as well.

All this is why you have to turn a compost pile to keep decomposition going.  This is also why a swamp or bog is the very best place to preserve wood for millennia so it can be dug up later by archaeologists.
I can put microbes in a 5 gallon bucket of rain water with blackstrap molasses and aerator in 24hr there multiplying but after 48 they run out of nutrients and there swimming in there own waist,,,, ???
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: reelynew on December 21, 2025, 07:22:59 PM
Quote from: Alan M on December 20, 2025, 06:12:01 PMI suggest researching: Hugelkultur.
+1 for Hugelkultur.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Keta on December 21, 2025, 07:26:41 PM
I am lucky when it  comes to "dirt". Our irrigation ditch gets filled with excelent soil I have to dig out ever other year.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Benni3 on December 21, 2025, 07:41:22 PM
I'm getting ready to start on my garden soil,,,, ;) adding coco core,peat moss,perlite,cracked corn,oyster shell and when the temperature breaks planting white clover to help keep weeds out,,,, ;D
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Crow on December 22, 2025, 11:27:13 AM
"Dirt: is what you scrape out from under your fingernails, "soil" is what you grow your garden in! ;)
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: jgp12000 on December 22, 2025, 11:50:29 AM
I considered planted weeping willow trees but wouldn't look right in the location,they really suck up some water.
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Keta on December 22, 2025, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: jgp12000 on December 22, 2025, 11:50:29 AMI considered planted weeping willow trees but wouldn't look right in the location,they really suck up some water.

We have large 120 year old poplar trees, both lombardi and carolina.  They too suck up a lot of water.  The tree that destroyed our house was a lombardi that started dying when our irrigation water was cut off several years ago.  We took out 10 dead trees 6 years ago and 2 last year at $2000 a tree and just saved enough to take out the last 4 on the irrigation ditch.  It was scedualed for right after the new year but obviously that was too late.

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Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: jgp12000 on December 22, 2025, 01:24:03 PM
Those make our trees look like toothpicks!Like I mentioned earlier "Last Woodsmen" is our new show to watch.Some of the trees are worth $30k+ & they replant 2 for 1 harvested.The work starts when they hit the ground,they seem to grow on the ground ;D hard work makes for good sleeping ...
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 22, 2025, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: Crow on December 22, 2025, 11:27:13 AM"Dirt: is what you scrape out from under your fingernails, "soil" is what you grow your garden in! ;)

Well, when I was a kid my mom would say "you could grow 🥔 in those ears". 😂 🤣

Wow, Lee, that tree was nothing more than a hollow shell.  :o
Title: Re: Making Dirt
Post by: Benni3 on December 23, 2025, 01:04:05 AM
Quote from: Crow on December 22, 2025, 11:27:13 AM"Dirt: is what you scrape out from under your fingernails, "soil" is what you grow your garden in! ;)
The grapes of wrath,,, ;) i liked that movie and tobacco road,,,,, ;D