Hey Guys,
Need your help! I need a reasonable/economical alternative to cans of compressed air. Currently Im on my third six-pack of compressed air in as many months. This represents $60 ($19+tax each from Costco); which has pressed the need/issue of an air compressor for reels and many other projects.
Here's my current situation; need the compressor to be as quiet as possible (I know compressor and quiet is an oximoron) especially when I use it at nite. I also understand that oil-less compressors burn out and arent worth the money aside from being very noisy. Lastly monies is a consideration, I need to keep this below the $100 mark.
This is one of my thoughts on the solution. Since my main concern is compressed air maybe I can use a "air-brush" compressor since I have some project's that need to be air-brushed. Looking online at Harbor Freight for some comparative specification's I found that the air-brush compressor's deliver 58CFM's of air pressure compared to the typical 125-150 CFM's of the typical compressors.
So, does the air-brush compressor deliver enough SUSTAINED pressure for cleaning parts AND is it quiet enough to use in a
condo/apartment environment? PLEASE LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS, I NEED COMPRESSED AIR!! >:(
lEO
Um, no. You will need a compressor with a tank to achieve the airflow you will need to blow out the stuff in bearings. It's possible to get a compressor and a separate tank where you can fill up during the day, and use at night. that would be my option.
This might be helpful. Stay away from the 16oz refillable cans, they won't last long.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-135-PSI-5-GALLON-PORTABLE-AIR-TANK-F37-/251043057949?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7355111d
i leave mine on all the time and it's really noisy. i do that just to annoy my wife. try it sometime. it works great!!!!!! ;D
LOL @ Alan....... ;D Brave man....
The canister option (converted Propane tanks etc) is the best way to go, you can get them in many sizes and even fill them at Neighbors or a gas station???
Compressor in the garage and filling there is Best/fastest/easiest...
Turn off compressor at night (unless your as brave as Alan).. LOL
I have buddies that Off Road a lot in clubs and groups. They have converted Diving Tanks to hold the air they need, and strap them to truck beds etc.. Hold a whole lot of air...
Couldn't a second-hand dive tank be used?
All you'd need is an appropriate connection (and/or regulator) to attach an air duster gun like the one pictured below.
It'd no doubt last well and could be refilled down the local dive shop for next to nothing.
Been thinking about this for a while, but haven't had the opportunity to test the theory yet...
Quote from: redsetta on April 18, 2012, 10:30:39 PM
Couldn't a second-hand dive tank be used?
All you'd need is an appropriate connection (and/or regulator) to attach an air duster gun like the one pictured below.
It'd no doubt last well and could be refilled down the local dive shop for next to nothing.
Been thinking about this for a while, but haven't had the opportunity to test the theory yet...
You're spot on Justin. I used one for a while. Took a single hose regulator and cut off the fitting that attaches to the mask. Attached a quick-disconnect fitting with hose clamps and was set to go with a blow gun, tire inflater, and ??? The first stage reduced the pressure down to about 125#PSI (don't know what that is in kpA) and it worked like a champ. :) Much better than Alan's method of irritating the cook. ;D
QuoteMuch better than Alan's method of irritating the cook. ;D
:D ;D
Cheers Rob - good to know it works.
Now to find an old dive tank...
Quote from: redsetta on April 18, 2012, 11:38:44 PM
QuoteMuch better than Alan's method of irritating the cook. ;D
:D ;D
Cheers Rob - good to know it works.
Now to find an old dive tank...
Remember, not one too old or at least one that will pass inspection. Very strict here in the colonies about high pressure tanks being safe and it wouldn't be filled if you weren't a certified diver. If it won't pass, you're limited to whatever you can coax out of a friend's compressor.
A 3000#PSI will give you more volume of air 80 cubic feet rather than 71 in a 2200#PSI tank.
Cheers,
Rob
Quote from: alantani on April 18, 2012, 09:57:22 PM
i leave mine on all the time and it's really noisy. i do that just to annoy my wife. try it sometime. it works great!!!!!! ;D
Alan: I sent a copy of this page as an attachment to an email to Joy. Don't go home tonight. Dominick
Be careful Alan... Dominick probably did, seriously ;)
You could convert many tanks, but keep in mind that the kit alone will cost you over $25. I would go with the tank that I'm showing above.
Thanx Guys,
Thank's all of you for your comments, except Alan; his solution would have me homeless ;D. What I need to do now is find out what would be considered too old of a scuba tank, cost of the two size's tanks, cost to refill said tanks, size and weight of these tanks (space and monies are limited). Also need to consider if these scuba tanks can be refilled at a local garage/gas station (some dont have adequate compressors); come to think of it there's a dive shop not too far. If I can use a local garage I will definitely use my inline filters on them to maintain the tank. If for whatever reason the scuba tank doesnt work for me I will take Sals suggestion and use the conventional 5gal tank. Any ideas on relative time between refills for these tank options? NorCal, must I have a regulator for the scuba tanks or can I use fittings to enable a quick disconnect coupler?
BTW, I need to take this opportunity to thank all of you for your excellent/expedient/cutting-edge knowledge. In a matter of weeks of applying the knowledge along with the pictures (instrumental in my growth); my experience has grown exponentially where I can "fly with the Eagles (like you pro's) on some occasions. Like other's have said regarding this forum, no-one with commercial intrests/ties for the sake of marketing. Cant tell you how much my brain appreciates and feeds off of "PURE KNOWLEDGE" which this forum provides: Thank you Alan as founder and mentor and the rest of you "Eagles" for your input which make-up this great forum. DO NOT CHANGE A THING!! Thanx to this forum I've rebuilt my reels, taking them down to the smallest part (bare frame and removal of drive shaft). I've completely rebuilt my Toriums, Saltiga's, Avets, Luna, Calcutta TE300, Coastal, Abu's 4600 & 5500, CVX, Diawa LD30/50H's, 113HN's (Tanking these thanx Sal & Lee). I've got more to do and even my spinners (I AINT FRAID OF NO GHOSTS :o :o :o) all thanx to this forum and it wonderful members. Thanx again for your support.
Final thought, lets start a new post on your top 3 reels you would enter in the hypothetical "Annual Alan Tani Free Spool Contest". We could have catagories if you like or whatever. Me being the "humble pigeon" that I am would like to see what the rest of you "Eagles" and others have to say. A little "competitive-talk" would ad some excitement along with some estimated free-spool times; and as fisherman ourselves we all know about the estimates of fisherman (dont get too long of a Pinochio nose). Thank you all.
Leo
A dive shop will not fill an uncertified tank and with the high pressure in a scuba tank filled at a dive shop you will need a regulator for safety. You might look around and find a tire, weld or machine shop that will let you fill a tank. My current portable tank is a store bought one with a cert. tag like the one Sal linked to but I've used decommissioned propane tanks in the past.
I had know idea Dominick was so evil.
Quote from: LTM on April 19, 2012, 01:12:26 PM
Thanx Guys,
Thank's all of you for your comments, except Alan; his solution would have me homeless ;D. Leo
you would always hang out with me in the garage. we could make room for a cot, restock the frig with beer, and make a sandwich run to safeway. of course, you'd have to deal with a noisy compressor !!!!! ;D
Hello
If quiet is a high priority look into compressors used in the medical field i,e. dentists etc . There are some small very quiet ( ever hear one when at the dentist) ones. You won`t even have to put it outside.
You don`t really need much in the way of cfm to blow out these small bearings. How many cfm do you have with the cans of air you buy?
If you do opt for a larger , say 20 gal tank size or more do not buy the oiless no mater what the salesman tells you .If it does not drive you crazy it certainly will your wife.
I had one and it was a constant source of irration when in use, and it had a 60 gallon tank. I built a shed 40 feet back of the house and stiil cought hell when it was running.
So I got a large conventional air squeezer with an 80 gallon storage and it is so much quieter almost beyond compare.
Don`t reason from this that tank volume is a good indicator of cfm or decibles there are a lot of variables . As in anything money is a big factor in geting quiet and cfm without a lot of noise.
Believe it or not Harbor Freight sells a very good compressor in 60 gal. size don`t recall cfm but is relatively quiet and made in N. Carolina with if memory serves pump made in Italy oftimes on sale at around $500. You can check it out online.
Good lucK.
Thanks B.
If the need is more or less occasional there is economic solution... use old spare tyre.
It can be re-inflated with manual pump. Not noisy.
Not sure if the airflow is clean enough?
Thanx all of you for your comments, and I never thought of a spare tire!
I went with Sal's suggestion of a 5 gal tank from Sears (on sale btw). I went to my storage place and found everything that I needed including a compressor (no tank on it) that fills my tank to 115psi with no problem. I had a storage container in my storage unit full of compressor stuff (brand new including the compressor) all I had to do was get the tank. What a great setup; I've got to take a picture of it for others who may be in my situation. Now to see how long a tank will last, but no worries with my little compressor to refill it.
Thanks for all your comments (you too Alan) and suggestions. Man, this setup works just fantastic; I cant believe I had forgotten about my compressor project (must deffinitely have "CRS") :D
Leo