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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => D.A.M. Quick => Topic started by: Balvar24 on May 07, 2026, 06:48:53 PM

Title: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: Balvar24 on May 07, 2026, 06:48:53 PM
Does anyone have pictures of how the drag washers are installed in the 270?  I assume that they are held in the spool with a snap ring, correct?
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: Gfish on May 07, 2026, 10:52:55 PM
This is mine.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: Balvar24 on May 08, 2026, 03:46:02 PM
Thanks!  Now I just need to find a rod on the cheap for catfish/stripe.  Suggestions?
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: Steve V. on May 09, 2026, 02:04:30 AM
Quote from: Balvar24 on May 08, 2026, 03:46:02 PMThanks!  Now I just need to find a rod on the cheap for catfish/stripe.  Suggestions?

Define cheap. I have two of the Rippin lips casting rods and I like them. Rippin Lips (https://rippinlips.net/collections/super-cat-legacy-spinning-rods/products/7-6-super-cat-medium-spinning-click-the-link-to-be-notified-when-item-comes-back-in-stock)
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: Balvar24 on May 09, 2026, 01:21:38 PM
It'll get used once or twice a year.  I'm thinking about a $30 Shakespeare.   :-[
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: akroper on May 10, 2026, 03:43:53 AM
I have two Berkley Big Game rods I use for catfish when we are in Arizona for the winter.  They have held up well under sometimes abusive conditions.  I've caught dozens and dozens of catfish up to 16.5 lbs. without a problem of any kind.  They are around $45 at Walmart.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: jgp12000 on May 10, 2026, 02:50:15 PM
Big game rods are tough got my grandsons off Amazon  cheap but good
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: Balvar24 on May 12, 2026, 07:21:42 PM
Thanks for the tips.  Do you know if the rod seat is big enough to accommodate the big 270?
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: cbar45 on May 14, 2026, 01:51:05 AM
Quote from: Balvar24 on May 12, 2026, 07:21:42 PMThanks for the tips.  Do you know if the rod seat is big enough to accommodate the big 270?

I wouldn't worry too much about this as the 270 reel foot is thinner and more compact than, say, a Mitchell 302 or Penn 704.

My 270 will fit a standard Fuji reel seat from a size 18 all the way up to a 26; odds are Berkley uses a size in between those two.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: bushleague on May 20, 2026, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: Balvar24 on May 09, 2026, 01:21:38 PMIt'll get used once or twice a year.  I'm thinking about a $30 Shakespeare.   :-[

 While I do like the Shakespeare blanks, the rod guides they use are beyond garbage. Even with mono I have grooves cut in the first 3-4 guides in less than one season. Literally the worst guides I've seen on a rod since the mid 80's. With the prevalence of braid I'm not sure how there hasnt been more of a stink made about this.

 I've changed the guides on most of my Ugly Stiks out with a cheap kit I got on Amazon, these guides are probably also junk but they are holding up 10x better than the ones that come on pretty much every Shakespeare rod, as well as a bunch of Penn and other brands owned by Pure Fishing.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 21, 2026, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: bushleague on May 20, 2026, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: Balvar24 on May 09, 2026, 01:21:38 PMIt'll get used once or twice a year.  I'm thinking about a $30 Shakespeare.   :-[

 While I do like the Shakespeare blanks, the rod guides they use are beyond garbage. Even with mono I have grooves cut in the first 3-4 guides in less than one season. Literally the worst guides I've seen on a rod since the mid 80's. With the prevalence of braid I'm not sure how there hasnt been more of a stink made about this.

 I've changed the guides on most of my Ugly Stiks out with a cheap kit I got on Amazon, these guides are probably also junk but they are holding up 10x better than the ones that come on pretty much every Shakespeare rod, as well as a bunch of Penn and other brands owned by Pure Fishing.
Same amount of effort with $10-15 worth of Fuji guides will result in a much better end result.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: bushleague on May 21, 2026, 07:23:38 AM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on May 21, 2026, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: bushleague on May 20, 2026, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: Balvar24 on May 09, 2026, 01:21:38 PMIt'll get used once or twice a year.  I'm thinking about a $30 Shakespeare.   :-[

 While I do like the Shakespeare blanks, the rod guides they use are beyond garbage. Even with mono I have grooves cut in the first 3-4 guides in less than one season. Literally the worst guides I've seen on a rod since the mid 80's. With the prevalence of braid I'm not sure how there hasnt been more of a stink made about this.

 I've changed the guides on most of my Ugly Stiks out with a cheap kit I got on Amazon, these guides are probably also junk but they are holding up 10x better than the ones that come on pretty much every Shakespeare rod, as well as a bunch of Penn and other brands owned by Pure Fishing.

Same amount of effort with $10-15 worth of Fuji guides will result in a much better end result.

 In my location there is no way I can get Fuji's for anywhere near that. Believe me, I wanted to use better guides, but by the time I ordered them out of the states and got them shipped to northern Canada it would have cost me almost as much per-rod as just buying a better rod. I do like Ugly Stiks for some stuff, but I dont like them THAT much. The kit I got cost $14 CAD, and had enough ceramic coated guides to do a half dozen rods. For that price it was worth a shot, I did one rod and fished it with braid for a season, the guides handled it so I did about 4 more.

 My point was, if you're looking at a rod from a Pure Fishing brand, and the guides look anything like the "Ugly Tough" guides... buyer beware.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: cbar45 on May 21, 2026, 05:10:31 PM
I specifically ordered two sets of Batson ceramic guides when I purchased my Ugly Stick Steelhead Elites.

Liked the action of the blanks, but the stock guides leave more to be desired—even when they don't groove.

Have noticed variations on these Ugly Tuff guides; some are plain steel in black or silver, while others appear to have a gloss PVD-like coating.

These coated guides are what came with my rods, and are holding up ok. Granted only used a handful of times in non-sediment laden (ocean) waters.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: bushleague on May 21, 2026, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: cbar45 on May 21, 2026, 05:10:31 PMI specifically ordered two sets of Batson ceramic guides when I purchased my Ugly Stick Steelhead Elites.

Liked the action of the blanks, but the stock guides leave more to be desired—even when they don't groove.

Have noticed variations on these Ugly Tuff guides; some are plain steel in black or silver, while others appear to have a gloss PVD-like coating.

These coated guides are what came with my rods, and are holding up ok. Granted only used a handful of times in non-sediment laden (ocean) waters.

 Mine do get fished a lot, mostly for pike so constant cast-retrieve with sizeable lures. While that might be part of the issue, my Catfish rod only gets used for fishing bait, generally just for a few weeks in the spring, and it also got grooved quite quickly.

 What year are your Elites? I personally have not seen coated guides on an Ugly Stik but will keep an eye out. We have an Elite, a handful of GX2's, and the catfish kicking around. At this point the guides on all of them have been changed out of necessity. Braid was not used on any of them until the guides got changed.

Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: cbar45 on May 21, 2026, 09:26:23 PM
Bushleague, my Elite's are from the last batch of matte-black blanks they made prior to switching to grey. Shop got them in around '25, and I purchased them earlier this year.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: Balvar24 on June 22, 2026, 07:38:39 PM
Ended up and splurged $10 more and bought the Berkley.  Now to disasemble the 270 and chuck it in the ultrasonic cleaner.  The bail is a little sluggish to close.  Hopefully a good cleaning and lube will take care of that.
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: b houlihan on June 22, 2026, 10:02:45 PM
i need bail bumper stoper and spring dose anyone have one or know where i can get one thanks much b Houlihan
Title: Re: Super 270 Drag?
Post by: foakes on June 22, 2026, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: b houlihan on June 22, 2026, 10:02:45 PMi need bail bumper stoper and spring dose anyone have one or know where i can get one thanks much b Houlihan

PM me your mailing info and I'll drop a new rubber stopper and spring in the mail.  N/C.

These show discontinued and no longer available as of the mid 60's in the shop service manuals —- but I have a few that I keep in stock.

Best Regards, Fred