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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: flyforfish21 on May 08, 2012, 10:09:00 PM

Title: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 08, 2012, 10:09:00 PM
Ok,

here's my most recent frustration. Have worked on a few curados (including my own) recently and they all have a light "clicking" noise on the retrieve, but only when resistance is added. So whenever reeling in a lure/fish, there is an audible clicking. It's not once a revolution (spool/main gear), But more several clicks per handle turn. The click is not loud, but loud enough to bother me.

I've checked the following parts to try and figure this out to no avail:

-Spool bearings
-spool
-pinion gear
-main gear
-yoke
-Pinion bearing
-Anti reverse bearing
-worm gear pawl
-worm gear
-spacers under spool bearings (fiber like material)
-Drive shaft bearing/bushing (depending on model)

Pretty much have taken the reels down a million times it seems and can't figure this one out, so i'm coming here for some help :-\

One thing i've noticed, it the reel does not have this characteristic when the spool is out and pressure applied to the pinion gear. So i'm at a loss, can't seem to figure this one out.

Thanks everyone in advance for any help you can lend.

Geoff
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 09, 2012, 07:14:17 PM
Everyone is just as confused as me it seems :-\

I'll keep grinding and try and figure it out. Anyone with any suggestions, feel free to add anything!

Geoff
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: Bryan Young on May 09, 2012, 08:35:30 PM
I thnk Jonathan has working a tons of Curados.  I think he is out fishing as he is a Decky on the New Gravy out of Half Moon Bay.  You may need to wait until his return to fixing fishing reels again.
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 09, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
The waiting is the tricky part, gotta get one back out tomorrow. Got a few suggestions from a guy at shimano, so we'll how it plays out!

Thanks for the response ;D

Geoff
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: Nessie Hunter on May 10, 2012, 08:08:45 PM
I have worked on a lot of Curado's also. Never had that issue & it is confusing??!!!??
Trying to picture/think what it could be, but coming up empty!!
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 10, 2012, 09:49:10 PM
I know, me too.

No apparent damage to any part that i could see, both to the naked eye, and magnified.

Not sure what else it could be at this point...

Geoff
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: Biggameaddict on May 10, 2012, 11:00:25 PM
Have you looked at the schematics? Make sure everything is in place so you didn't have anything out of place or extra then try it out again. Good luck
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 10, 2012, 11:54:49 PM
Yeah, everything is where its supposed to be. I though maybe even a bent e-clip on the driveshaft, but nope...

Nessie, if your work load isn't too heavy and you don't mind taking a look, i could send the reels(3) your way. Let me know

Geoff
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: redsetta on May 11, 2012, 12:32:24 AM
G'day Geoff,
I've seen a lot of Curados, but don't remember coming across this problem before.
I assume you've checked the nylon levelwind gears (#3490 and 3696 on the 300E, here: http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishing/SAC/techdocs/en/Low_Profile/09CU300E_v1_m56577569830654406.pdf (http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishing/SAC/techdocs/en/Low_Profile/09CU300E_v1_m56577569830654406.pdf)).
If they're even slightly damaged, tiny bits of nylon can be left jammed between the teeth, causing an intermittent  'bump' as the opposing gear's teeth pass over them.
I'll have another look at my 200E7 this weekend and see if anything else comes to mind.
Good luck, Justin
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 11, 2012, 12:51:16 AM
Yeah, i did look at those too.

Its happened with the last three 300's in a row, something i'm doing isn't sitting right or something. I'll have to break it down and clean everything again, and see where it gets me.

Thanks for any and all help guys, i appreciate it.

Geoff
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: Ohrichie on May 11, 2012, 01:26:27 PM
Shot in the dark. Recently had a similar problem. Found the cog wheel below the main gear was bumping the cam just enough to make a noise.
I would count the clicks per revolution and count the teeth on the cog wheel. If they match you got it. I ended up taking a bit off of the diameter
of the cog wheel.
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: Nessie Hunter on May 11, 2012, 05:20:49 PM
Not busy at all...  :-[
Would do it for free (Im curious also), just pay shipping...
Shoot me a PM if you get to that point....
Im in the high desert (Hesperia 92345) of So Cal..

But try the above first, sounds like it could be your answer?????





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Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 11, 2012, 06:22:28 PM
Yeah, will try the above as soon as i get the chance. If that fails, i'll get them you to nessie, and make you charge me ;)

Geoff
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: REK on May 12, 2012, 12:03:27 AM
http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/customer_service0/reel_maintenance_instructions.download.-mainParsys-000102-downloadFile.html/Upgrade%20(Curado)%20Tutorial.pdf.pdf

Bumped into this. But the Curado 300 is not listed.
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: fisher480 on May 12, 2012, 12:56:58 AM
I had a similar problem with a friend Curado 300E. I fitted carbontex drag washers and new ADEC 5 ceramic berings and noticed the problem when we were fishing. I re lubed to bearing a few times and the problem disappeared. I was puzzled over the problem too as I own all Shimano baitcasters and have not experienced this one before.
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: Nessie Hunter on May 12, 2012, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: fisher480 on May 12, 2012, 12:56:58 AM
I had a similar problem with a friend Curado 300E. I fitted carbontex drag washers and new ADEC 5 ceramic berings and noticed the problem when we were fishing. I re lubed to bearing a few times and the problem disappeared. I was puzzled over the problem too as I own all Shimano baitcasters and have not experienced this one before.

The Ceramic Bearings do have some noise in them for awhile, seems that the balls LAP (wear in to perfect fit) in to the races??????
I picture/think Very light ceramic balls rolling in a cage of Steel.  
Glass on Metal????
Wearing into perfect harmony ???  

The ABEC 5 are much noisier  then the ABEC 7...  
I used the ABEC 5 Hybrid once, at the request of a client and he was a little pissed at the noise (he is a bass guide)..
I told him it should stop in a short time of usage...  
HE reported back that It stopped after a short period of use, and he was very happy with them.......

FYI;
Laps & Lapping in Bearing/bushing surfaces;
http://modelenginenews.org/duplex/duplex_laps.html




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Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 17, 2012, 08:04:17 PM
Nessie,

Sent you a PM. No luck with anything i tried. Even broke all the way back down and cleaned them again...nothing

Geoff
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: Nessie Hunter on May 17, 2012, 08:35:34 PM
2 Pm's sent back (one with correction) Sorry for the senior moment!!!

  :o
Title: Re: Another curado 300 question...
Post by: flyforfish21 on May 17, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
Responded!

No problem at all. Shipping out today, coming your way ;)

Geoff