Can the frames on the Black Penn Senator 3/0, 4/0 & 6/0 be upgraded? I looked around in the penn tutorials and questions and find lots of good stuff about the drag washer replacements however none about the frame upgrades for these old reels. Thanks for all your help!
Yes, check with Alan or Bryan, they might still have some available.
the black 4/0 and 6/0 will work, but the 3/0 will not. gotta get bryan to check later.......
I think I remember a black 3/0 being upgraded, but don't remember if it was with Newell parts :-\.
I believe the 3/0s are upgradable. So are the drags. I just added a 5+1 ht-100 set in a 3/0 that was just serviced.
A Penn 2/0 was listed on ebay in Dec 2011 with a Tiburon T2 frame for $185. I've never heard of this one before today. I just googled it. As you know, the 2/0 is a narrow version of the black 3/0. So, maybe there IS a frame for the 3/0. I'll bet they are hard to find.
Here are several possibilities for upgrading the 4/0 and 6/0 Senators.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010380.jpg)
This is a 4/0 with a Newell kit.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010379.jpg)
This Accurate frame on a 114H will also fit the black 114.
Just remember (and you may already know this) the spools that are included with the Accurate, JVariance, and Tiburon frames are for the red "H" high-speed reels. Buy the frame only, and use your old spool.
George
Here's the link to the 2/0 on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PENN-111-2-0-Senator-Custom-Built-w-TIBURON-T2-Frame-Kit-Many-NEW-Parts-/270879061721
Enjoy,
George
Just sold the accurate frame for the 3/0. I think ala still has a couple o Tiburon frames. I need to check.
remember that the screw hole pattern for the black 3/0 is different from the red one. :-\
Ok Thanks for all your help guys!