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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: j0k3r on August 09, 2012, 02:42:31 PM

Title: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: j0k3r on August 09, 2012, 02:42:31 PM
Hi guys,

I recently bought a power handle knob off of fleabay for my Avet JX. I installed it and while spooling up spectra the knob was becoming unscrewed by itself and falling off (very frustrating). My question is -- Is loctite blue enough to hold it ? It seems the torque + vibration of turning the handle was causing the screw to back out. Or should I consider the permanent loctite red? I'm going on a trip next week and the last thing I need is to lose the power handle while fighting a fish.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Westii on August 09, 2012, 03:13:34 PM
I experienced the same issue recently after installing a power handle.  I didn't use the loctite initially because of corrosion concerns, but after that experience I went ahead and used the blue version.  Haven't been able to test it yet to see if that will be enough.  It was very frustrating though since it was coming loose while catching fish.  If the blue loctite doesn't solve the problem, I wont hesitate to move on to the red.  I'd rather have a corrosion problem at some point down the road than have the handle fall off while fighting a fish.  Just my opinion though and I'm assuming others won't agree with this approach due to corrosion concerns.
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: onemako on August 09, 2012, 04:49:20 PM
use a small xacto knife and trim a small piece of plumbers tape and wrap one turn on the threads and it will work.
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Nessie Hunter on August 09, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
Good question...
I just recently did 3 knobs..   
Followed the directions with Blue Loctite...

But had the same worry about corrosion...
As I got the screw almost all the way down, I brushed in some marine grease between the handle and knob on both sides...
Figured it would not get into the loctite or threads at that point...???
Time will tell..   
These reels are going to Cabo to Live on a fleet of Panga's.
The ultimate test !!!!!!! 

Ill keep you posted if there is an issue with them...  ???   :-)




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Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Dominick on August 09, 2012, 05:47:29 PM
Quote from: Nessie Hunter on August 09, 2012, 05:14:08 PM

These reels are going to Cabo to Live on a fleet of Panga's.
The ultimate test !!!!!!! 

Ill keep you posted if there is an issue with them...  ???   :-)
Hey Frank:  Are these reels going on Pino's Pangas?  What kind of reels are they?  Dominick
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: jdc946 on August 09, 2012, 07:25:11 PM
Same thing happened to me 2 years ago. Locktite solved the problem, haven't had another occurence
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Nessie Hunter on August 09, 2012, 08:49:13 PM
Quote from: Pescachaser on August 09, 2012, 05:47:29 PM
Quote from: Nessie Hunter on August 09, 2012, 05:14:08 PM

These reels are going to Cabo to Live on a fleet of Panga's.
The ultimate test !!!!!!! 

Ill keep you posted if there is an issue with them...  ???   :-)
Hey Frank:  Are these reels going on Pino's Pangas?  What kind of reels are they?  Dominick

Dom, Yes for  Pino via Othan...
TLD II
Triton II
Tiagra II

Full service and New handles...

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/92345NessieHunter/NewHandles002.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/92345NessieHunter/NewHandles001.jpg)

He has a whole bunch of quality stuff down there now, all those Trynos II's  I did plus so many others....


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Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Alto Mare on August 09, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Nice reels Frank, good luck on your trip.
BTW, do you like those short handles? I would think a 6" handle with those nice "T" knobs would make a world of difference.
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Nessie Hunter on August 09, 2012, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 09, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Nice reels Frank, good luck on your trip.
BTW, do you like those short handles? I would think a 6" handle with those nice "T" knobs would make a world of difference.

IS there an extension/longer handle for the 2 speeds?? 
I just never looked for them.   
I could sure use one on my TLD 30 II also...

?????


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Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Alto Mare on August 09, 2012, 09:54:45 PM
I don't know who would have them for those reels Frank, I just thought that a power handle would be nice.
Maybe you could try this guy:
http://myworld.ebay.com/fishingreel79?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
You might need to send him your handle, but I'm sure that he could do it for you.
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: day0ne on August 10, 2012, 04:13:44 AM
Quote from: Nessie Hunter on August 09, 2012, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 09, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Nice reels Frank, good luck on your trip.
BTW, do you like those short handles? I would think a 6" handle with those nice "T" knobs would make a world of difference.

IS there an extension/longer handle for the 2 speeds??  
I just never looked for them.  
I could sure use one on my TLD 30 II also...

?????

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Alan has or at least had a handle arm for the Shimano 2 speed TLD's. I have one on my 20 II. Nice handle.

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=269.0

Tiburon also makes one. I have 3, 1 lite and 2 of the original Mark II's. They fit Tiagra & Trynos 12 thru 30 & all TLD 2 Speeds. Fishincomfort on ebay also has complete handles which are longer than stock

Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Dominick on August 10, 2012, 04:34:08 AM
Frank:  Nice reels.  I've seen reels that nice on the cruisers, never on a panga.  Pino runs a class act.  Dominick
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: misanthrope on August 10, 2012, 06:38:59 AM
Loctite is not only a thread locking compound, but a sealant as well. As long as the components are dry and assembled in a dry environment, there shouldn't be an issue using Loctite vs grease in terms of corrosion, just make sure to be generous with the Loctite so it squeezes out a bit. I haven't had any issues nor have I heard of mariners or fisherman in small coastal Alaska that have had negative experiences other than "I should've used the red one". Your mileage may vary, with my luck someones going to listen to me and 2 months later the reel is going to be plagued by cancerous corrosion.

-Will

Disclaimer: My wife not listening to me may have merit...
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: willybendit on August 12, 2012, 06:57:06 PM
Hi Nessie   ive a new power handle and longer handle blank to fit a Shimano TLD 30   it came from the states   ill track down the company  if your after one    its the same as in the pictures
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Nessie Hunter on August 12, 2012, 10:34:20 PM
The TLD is terribly weak in High gear, needs some torque to crank it...
I was thinking a longer handle, but use it so seldom I havnt looked for one.

If you know of any, please let me know...  :-)

Current handle is 3" overall. 
But only 2 1/2" center to center.... Weak Sauce!!

Yes Othan & Pino's (Augustine)  has nothing but the best. 
Tirgara's, Trynos etc... TLD's are back up reels for them.
All special serviced for Cabo with Wet Carbontex & extra marine Grease & love..
Has had several customers comment on the quality..
One customer even complimented them on the Drags lasting all the way through big fish, saying his previous outings they have all faded out and almost cost him Big Fish each time!!!




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Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: day0ne on August 13, 2012, 04:19:30 AM
Quote from: Nessie Hunter on August 12, 2012, 10:34:20 PM

I was thinking a longer handle, but use it so seldom I havnt looked for one.

If you know of any, please let me know...  :-)

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See my post above
Title: Re: Power Handle Falling Off
Post by: Nessie Hunter on August 13, 2012, 04:43:21 PM
Quote from: day0ne on August 13, 2012, 04:19:30 AM
Quote from: Nessie Hunter on August 12, 2012, 10:34:20 PM

I was thinking a longer handle, but use it so seldom I havnt looked for one.

If you know of any, please let me know...  :-)

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See my post above

Thanks, that is exactly what I need..   
Dont know how I missed it!!!  (banging head)..
Im sure any one with a TLD II needs this Handle extension..  Awesome!!!



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