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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: BryanC on August 11, 2012, 01:21:49 AM

Title: Penn 115L question
Post by: BryanC on August 11, 2012, 01:21:49 AM
I have a Penn 115L (not 115L2) that I purchased on ebay about two years ago.  The reel was new in the box at the time.  The box has the words, "made in USA", but I cannot find that anywhere on the reel itself.  Why is that?  My other senators say "Made in USA" on both side plates.  Is this reel some sort of a hybrid, put together during the manufacturing transition to China?
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: akfish on August 11, 2012, 01:11:54 PM
The 115H2 was made in China. The box may have been made in the US. There should have been a small Made in China sticker on the foot of the reel -- but it's easy to remove...
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: Alto Mare on August 11, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
I wonder why they just use that sticker :-\. The 115's  with bushings have the word " Philadelphia Mfg Co" on the left side plate, the ones with bearings don't.
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: akfish on August 11, 2012, 03:52:31 PM
I misread. I believe that all 115Ls were made in the US and that only the 115L2s were made in China.
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on August 11, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
Yes the l2s were made in china, as long as you have a later batch they are good reels, mine has preformed flawlessly
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: BryanC on August 13, 2012, 11:01:43 PM
Mine is a 115L.  It is not a 115L2.  Does that mean it was made in the U.S.?  If so, I wonder why there is nothing on it saying where it was made.
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: broadway on August 14, 2012, 02:52:22 AM
      Put it next to a USA made 9/0 and you'll be able to figure it out.  If that doesn't work take it apart and see if it's got any differences in the innards or quality/ weight of the parts (the trim rings should tell the tale).  For sure, don't go by the box if you bought it on Ebay!
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: BryanC on August 14, 2012, 12:17:21 PM
Thanks, but I don't have another 115L to put it alongside, and I wouldn't necessarily know the difference between the quality & weight of the parts, since I've never opened another one.

Here are pics of the reel.  The sideplates say 115L (not L2), but don't say anything about where it was made.

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSC_0869-r.jpg)

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSC_0870-r.jpg)

Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: mohamedhashem21 on August 14, 2012, 01:04:51 PM
from what i know :
the made in usa senators should have "made in USA" engraved on the right side plate not only on the box (all boxes has come from usa) and all of my senators have this and also the USA made versions don't have the "retrieve" and "free spool" options engraved on the side plates i think this one is made in china but you shouldn't worry i think that there is no difference in the materials quality and in an old post alan stated that he loves the new Chinese jig-masters so yo'll be fine i think the only issue you'll face is the clicker since there is a part made of plastic but you can change it later with the metal part of the USA models.
all of penn spinners except torque are made in china now and most of them are great :)


mohamed hashem
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: broadway on August 14, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Looks like a 115L to me cause I don't own any of those ;)
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: Alto Mare on August 14, 2012, 03:48:24 PM
Your 115L is made in China, the recessed area by the eccentric lever gives it away. This is the 115L made in USA, with no mame anywhere:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/Picture2114.jpg)
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: broadway on August 14, 2012, 04:04:52 PM
That baby is one sweet reel, Sal!  8)
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: Alto Mare on August 14, 2012, 04:25:45 PM
I just found a 114H with the same recessed area by the eccentric lever and it does say made in USA. So I don't know what to tell you.
Sal
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: alantani on August 14, 2012, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: BryanC on August 14, 2012, 12:17:21 PM

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSC_0869-r.jpg)

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSC_0870-r.jpg)


i am also guessing that you have a reel from china.  the side plate rings appear to be stamped in a different manner.  they also appear to be made of stainless steel. 
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: Tunanorth on August 15, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
Hi Alan and all,
The 115L in question looks like it was made during the short "transition period", after the decision had been made to switch production of this model offshore.
Toward the end as parts supplies dwindled, some sideplates were indeed run in China. [hence no USA markings].   
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: Keta on August 17, 2012, 05:01:51 AM
Thanks Steve.
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: BryanC on August 18, 2012, 12:23:52 AM
Quote from: Tunanorth on August 15, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
Hi Alan and all,
The 115L in question looks like it was made during the short "transition period", after the decision had been made to switch production of this model offshore.
Toward the end as parts supplies dwindled, some sideplates were indeed run in China. [hence no USA markings].   

Thank you for the "inside scoop".  That is essentially what I had been thinking.
Title: Re: Penn 115L question
Post by: George4741 on August 18, 2012, 02:38:36 AM
It's unusual how the Penn Senator 9/0 emblem is oval.

Bryan, do the insides of the sideplates have that little circle of numbers and arrow molded into them, the one indicating the year of manufacture?  If so, what is the date?

I have a Jigmaster with sideplates made in July 2005 (I think before manufacture was moved to China) and no "Made In USA" on them.  Yet, it had a "made in China" sticker on the reelfoot.  I think it may have been assembled during that transition period, too.

Then, again, this might not mean anything. :-\