Hello,
A friend gave me an old 4/0 Senator and a couple off 500 Jigmasters
Does anyone still have a 501 conversion kit for the Jigmaster?
Here's the 4/0
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/54spes/4_0_Senator.jpg)
If you could spare me further searching,,, is this "short tutorial" the only one on the 4/0?
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=208.msg252#msg252 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=208.msg252#msg252)
As you can see the spool was pretty corroded.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/54spes/Spool_Dirty.jpg)
Soaked it overnight in SaltX and gave it a light touch with some sandpaper.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/54spes/Spool_Clean2.jpg)
More to follow,,,,
Tks,
Excited to see the full transformation.
Quote from: spes on September 16, 2012, 02:56:28 PM
If you could spare me further searching,,, is this "short tutorial" the only one on the 4/0?
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=208.msg252#msg252 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=208.msg252#msg252)
Use that tutorial. It's the best one.
BTW your spool cleaned up nicely.
There is a 501/506 conversion kit from tiburon, but it's $80-90. I have more frames on order.
Going to order carbontex washers tomorrow,,
Alan,
Do you carry ss gear sleeves for this reel and the jigmaster500s?
$?
Tks,
$20. http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=157.0
Alan,
Do the 113 and 113h use the same gear sleeve?
Ron
Hi Ron, the 113 and 113H gear sleeves are different. I have put a 113 on the side for you. Do you need a 113H as well?
Bryan
Well,
Their is a difference between want, need and can afford! I NEED the parts for my tuna special, I want stainless in everything in my box, which means 2 113s and a 113h, one for my brothers 113hlw would be nice to. As to what I can afford, we'll see. I did "not spend" all the money I thought I would on that Newell kit today.
Ron
Hello,
Is the left side bearing one piece? Or can I pry out a bearing to repack it with lube?
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/54spes/Left_Side_Bearing.jpg)
Don't want to start prying where I'm not supposed to :o
The bearing will come out. Its under a retainer that needs to come out first.
FYI,
In the picture of the bearing that your showing, your not looking at the actual bearing instead its the bb retainer which you need to pry-out which was previously mentioned.
Leo
Got it out thanks..
finished up left side,,
started on the right side. Took the handle and the star drag off, and put the handle back on to see if there was play on the gear sleeve. There is. Not a huge amount but I do think it's more than acceptable.
If Scotts is $13 for a stock gear sleeve I might as well spend the little more for the Tani ss. I wont be fishing this reel hard but might as well go ss for a few dollars more.
Alan, do you have ss 98-320?
yes, got a bunch. send a pm it you would like me to ship one out.
DOH!
Not really knowing what I was doing :-[
I was breaking down the right side to get at the right side bearing.
And that's what I did, broke it :'(
While trying to remove the eccentric jack the "ear?" that sticks up on the right side plate broke off!
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/54spes/DOH_1.jpg)
Ok, what are my options here?
It broke off pretty clean, and I think it would go back in place with some 5 minute epoxy,,,, how much of a load is that under?
I could just scream,,
wait I did scream..
I would drill it out and stake in a piece of steel.
Ron
I have an old side plate I can send you. Send me a message with your address.
John
A round of applause people for John!
He is going to hook me up with a side plate.
What a great community we have here!
I thank you John.
On to next question!
Does the right side bearing have a retaining ring or just a pressed in shield.
I do have a bearing packer, but would still like to open it up.
Thanks again!
the bearing is in a cup. You can pry or pull it out of the cup. Sometimes this can be a little tough if its corroded. Bob
Yeah i got it out of the cup,, I just wanted to open up the bearing itself... need new eyeballs
The ones I've done it has a fine wire retaining the shield. I used a fishhook to remove them. don't let em get away or they will be lost.
Michael,
I shipped your side plate today and included a chrome spool that is in better condition than the one you have. Either use it or keep it as a spare. Parts should be there Wed. or Thurs.
John
Thank you again John,,
Very nice of you to do that.
What goes around, comes around ;) ;D
Got the right side bearing out,, it's toast.
Was searching the dimensions for it here and found:
Quote from: Irish Jigger on February 22, 2012, 01:15:28 AM
And another,
Penn 113H, Spool bearings, 0.1250 x 0.3750 x 0.1562 inch-2 reqd.
Is the right side bearing the same as the Left??
Yes.
Yes just ordered a set from smoothdrag...
The sideplate and spool came today John,, thanks again!
Look nice,,,
Alrighty,,, just recieved the new bearings and drag washers for this reel. I wanted to ask a few more questions before putting it all together,,,
Ok, so concencus is to yammy grease bearings as opposed to oiling and leave them closed,,, correct?
And when applying cal drag grease to drag washers,, should it be applied and buffed or globbed on? (this one always confuses me,because I have seen tutorials describing both methods.)
Thanks,
Mike
Greased bearings will hold up better against saltwater etc. They are fine if you are using the reel for trolling or dropping a bait where you do not need freespool. If you are casting the reel then you are better off with a lube like corrosion x or tsi301. You may also want to install them open. You don't need a lot of Cal's if you glob it on it will squeeze out as the drags seat so either way is ok. Bob
Hello,
I forgot to post a shot of the finished reel.
I can't wait to crank on a fish with this new handle!
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/54spes/20121115_165904.jpg)
Now I was hoping someone could tell me how much backing I will need on this.
I will be loading 100 yards of 40# monel trolling line with 30yds of 50# mono leader.
I have a spool of 30# dacron for my backing.... anyone know how much of that is needed to fill the spool?
Tks,
She's looking like she's ready for battle! Nice job, now go catch some fish ;)
John, you're a class act!
Dom
X2, nice job on that reel, enjoy. By the way, don't toss that damaged plate, I believe it could be fixed with a little effort.
Dom, you're right about John, he helps many, including me.... He's a keeper ;)
Lots of good guys here.
Nice job, great looking reel. I like the handle. I wish I could help you on the line question but I've never used monel. :-[ good luck and post a pic of your catch. Bob
Spes,
Sorry I missed your question on spooling that baby. I'm a wire liner myself, and here's what ya wanna do.
Dacron isn't expensive (compared to other lines) so pick up 2 different colored spools of hi-vis (yellow and orange) in 80lb. test.
You want to put on between 200' and 300' of yellow as the backing depending if your crew thumb spools the line/wire on... if not go with 200' so you don't bunch up the wire to the bars and are unable to reel any more. Then do a haywire twist in the wire (make sure you break the wire cleanly so no sharp edges) and attach the backing with an albright special (snug tight!). Put 75' of 40lb. monel on then haywire twist the end. Now cut 4' of the orange dacron, attach one end to the wire you just put on the reel and the other end to the haywire twist you will make on the tag end of the next 75' you'll now put on. When you finish that 75' you will do the same thing except alternate to the hi-vis yellow (same as your backing)... this way you can tell your crew to let the line out to the first orange, second yellow, etc. Continue until you reach your desired amount- 300' of wire. Lastly, though it's more expensive go with 20' of 60 lb. fluorocarbon (if using umbrella rigs go to 80lb) as a leader for many reasons but two are: the hook sets (minimal stretch) are better and when trolling slow the fish can see it, etc, etc. Don't add more than that or you'll be sorry... not to mention after 300' the line starts rising due to the drag from water. You would need a couple cinder blocks to negate the water drag with any more line out. Lastly, ALWAYS use a ball bearing swivel at the end with wire... ALWAYS!
PS- check connections about every ten trips. I have had 2 slip in the past 3 years... one was a thresher >:(
Save me some stripers if that's what you're hunting ;)
Dom
Tks Dom,
Yes I'm going for stripers.
I googled the hi vis dacron 80# and couldn't nail down one that met all the requirements,,
Hivis (yellow or orange ) I only found 20# in yellow or orange.
80# I only found White,black or spotted.
I'll have to check the big name store sometime I have a couple of hours to kill.
Tks again,
Mike
Here ya go bro...
http://www.finestkind.com/product/angler-pro-igfa-class-dacron-1200yds
Dom
Quote from: spes on October 02, 2012, 12:59:40 AM
A round of applause people for John!
He is going to hook me up with a side plate.
What a great community we have here!
I thank you John.
On to next question!
Does the right side bearing have a retaining ring or just a pressed in shield.
I do have a bearing packer, but would still like to open it up.
Thanks again!
x2, kudos for John.