im waiting on new drag washers for my penn 285 delmar. can anyone help me on how to replace them also are there and mods or builds i can do on this reel to make it better then it already is. thanks for the help
Look http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=659.0.
It's similar enough.
here's the schematic.
https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/schematics/285m.pdf (https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/schematics/285m.pdf)
here a tutorial that is close.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=44.0
take a look and please let us know how it works out.
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The 285 Del Mar is a good reel to start on. It's simple and there's not much to go wrong. If you replace the original drag washers with greased (use Cal's or Shimano Drag grease) carbon fiber drag washers (either HT-100 or Carbontex), you'll make the reel as good as it can get. The frame isn't strong enough to tolerate bumping up the drag. Depending on your hands and how you fish, you might want to get a handle with a larger knob -- the Penn 024 066 is a marked improvement over the stock Penn 024 155 -- but the reel will fish just fine stock but with new drag washers.
The only trick is to make sure the dog spring doesn't fly out when you remove the bridge. Be careful there. And then use all three hands when you reinstall the bridge, dog and dog spring.
Good luck.
after posting this i remembered that i had taken all the guts from a old 285 with a cracked side plate. so i went threw all my stuff and founf it and pulled it apart and took the drag out disk by disk. man is it easy. now just to wait for my new drag to get here. also do they make a frame upgrade or replacement for this reel? that would be a great upgrade
The insides of the 285 are identical to the Long Beach 60, so that's an upgrade -- metal rings on the inner sides of the side plates. I think that's about the only "upgrade" available for a 285.
will the side plat from a penn long beach 60 fir my penn delmar/
I would try it, they have the same guts.
cause it has like a cover were the main gear comes threw that the delmar don so there is a open spot on my reel were #### gets in it. im just wondering if i need to go ahead and get the long beach main gear sleeve as well or if the one i have will work. idk if the long beach sleeve is longer or not
now only to find the penn 60 long beach rings.
Quote from: jamesnashtonbrady on September 27, 2012, 10:49:08 PM
cause it has like a cover were the main gear comes threw that the delmar don so there is a open spot on my reel were #### gets in it. im just wondering if i need to go ahead and get the long beach main gear sleeve as well or if the one i have will work. idk if the long beach sleeve is longer or not
Same guts means same gears, same bridge, same spool and so on. The 285 is very similar to the 60. Good luck with your project
Welcome aboard by the way.
Sal
hmm. my side plate on my 285 is diffrent then the 60
Yes they are, but they should still work. Everything else on that reel is the same as the 285, I don't see why it shouldn't work.
nor do i and hell even if it dont work im only spending 4 bucks on ebay. i just cant find them side plates anywere
side ring plates. sorry for the typo
Where are you from? I'll send you the whole 285 Reel with a nice ss spool in excellent shape on me, to show you a nice welcome ;).
Send me a pm with your address and I'll get it out to you.
PM sent. thanks
Quote from: jamesnashtonbrady on September 27, 2012, 10:50:10 PM
now only to find the penn 60 long beach rings.
I don't think the longbeach 60 rings will fit the 285 sideplates.
So,
Penn Parts lists an aluminum spool, HT-100 drag washer set and stainless sleeve for this reel. In fact, it looks like it could be made into essentially a narrow 112. Do the chrome rings really increase rigidity that much?
Ron
not on a 8lb reel.
Quote from: noyb72 on September 28, 2012, 02:34:45 AM
So,
Penn Parts lists an aluminum spool, HT-100 drag washer set and stainless sleeve for this reel. In fact, it looks like it could be made into essentially a narrow 112. Do the chrome rings really increase rigidity that much?
Ron
No, the 29L-85 wil also fit a standard 2/0 (111) not a 112.
Sorry, I believe you're right, Scott is showing that the 111 and 112 share the same plates. I 'm still not sure though and I don't have one to check.
Quote from: noyb72 on September 28, 2012, 02:34:45 AM
So,
Penn Parts lists an aluminum spool, HT-100 drag washer set and stainless sleeve for this reel. In fact, it looks like it could be made into essentially a narrow 112. Do the chrome rings really increase rigidity that much?
Ron
can you post a link to these parts and upgrades
Quote from: Alto Mare on September 28, 2012, 03:14:53 AM
Sorry, I believe you're right, Scott is showing that the 111 and 112 share the same plates. I 'm still not sure though and I don't have one to check.
so 111 and a 112 rings should work as well? i kinda missed this one
Sal, the 112 is essentially a wide 111. Sideplates are interchangeable, the handle sides are just marked differently.
Unless I'm missing something here, it seems that James is trying to install the chrome inner rings from a longbeach, or other reel, onto the 285 sideplates. I don't think they'll fit.
George
Quote from: George4741 on September 28, 2012, 03:28:32 AM
Sal, the 112 is essentially a wide 111. Sideplates are interchangeable, the handle sides are just marked differently.
Unless I'm missing something here, it seems that James is trying to install the chrome inner rings from a longbeach, or other reel, onto the 285 sideplates. I don't think they'll fit.
George
is there any inner rings that will fit this reel? i know the long beach 60 right side plate will work. its the same as the delmar. but i want to stiffin it up some if i can. also is there are any other upgrades/interchangble parts from other reels to make this one better let me know. thanks
That's what I'm saying. This actually looks like a great little 25% mono reel for inshore work. Compact and plenty of strength for croaker and bay bass. The gears are slow but the diameter is larger than a jigmaster so it's retrieve length per crank should be close.
The parts are all listed on mysticparts.com the 60 and dell mar use the same spool.
Ron
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Quote from: jamesnashtonbrady on September 28, 2012, 03:32:56 AM
is there any inner rings that will fit this reel?
No, the Delmar is what it is. It is just better to get another reel with the inner rings, such as a Longbeach 60, and save yourself a lot of grief. Or use the Delmar as is with, say, 25 lb mono at 8 lb drag, or less. Some would suggest no more than 20 lb mono. Another reel in the same boat (no pun intended ;D) as the Delmar is the 85 Seaboy. They're almost identical.
Quote from: noyb72 on September 28, 2012, 03:39:20 AM
That's what I'm saying. This actually looks like a great little 25% mono reel for inshore work. Compact and plenty of strength for croaker and bay bass. The gears are slow but the diameter is larger than a jigmaster so it's retrieve length per crank should be close.
The parts are all listed on mysticparts.com the 60 and dell mar use the same spool.
Ron
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i went on pennreels.com and searched penn delmar 285 and nothing cam up. how would i find them parts? thanks for the help
Thanks for clearing things up George, sometimes the red plates get stuck in your head and mess everything up. I'm with you on that last comment.
James, sometimes it's just not worth the effort to upgrade, especially on what you're trying to do here. It's easier to just get an heavier reel.
Try this:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn285.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn285.aspx)
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yea im starting to think so. just head a idea and thought it would turn out nice. but hey onto the next project
OK,
So I just realized that the 111 uses the same spool. I was thinking that the 60 spool was an intermediate size.
Ron
Quote from: George4741 on September 28, 2012, 03:50:18 AM
Try this:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn285.aspx
ok cool im going to look threw it tomorrow and probably call them. thanks
James, I hope I'm not putting a damper on your creativity. This photo shows what I mean.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010410.jpg)
This is a 111 Senator and a 85 Seaboy, but same principle. The sideplates are the same diameter, but the Senator has a groove to allow the chrome rings to fit properly. The edges of the Seaboy sideplates are squared. The chrome rings won't fit. I hope this clears everything up.
You're right Ron. The 111, 60, 85 and 285 spools are interchangeable.
George
Quote from: Alto Mare on September 28, 2012, 03:49:14 AM
Thanks for clearing things up George, sometimes the red plates get stuck in your head and mess everything up. I'm with you on that last comment.
Sal, I think some of the Penn designers were quite proud of all the confusion they created. However, it must have driven the bean counters mad. ;D
James,
I know this post is a day late and a dollar short, but here goes....
There is a rare wide version of the Delmar called the 286. It has a longbeach 65 spool, stand and bars. I've seen two of them. However, it isn't any stronger than the 285.
Wouldn't the wide Del Mar be the same size as a 3/0?
Ron
I should have said I've seen them on the internet. I've never examined one, but I believe the width is in between the black 2/0 and 3/0 senators. That is why I think they have a 65 spool.