Hi everybody,some opinions about this reel? One piece chrome bronze spool with the same heigth as Senator 6/0 but narrow,double teeth dog,optional antireverse,etc,etc.....
My favorite older Penn reel is the 349H, not as strong as a 114H but a good reel for large butts and YT. I even found a Newell aluminum spool to replace a warped brass/bronze one I had. The drags can be easily converted to a CF 5+1, I have 2 set up 7+1 but they are untested. 113H SS gear sleeves are not quite the same but they work well. I prefer the single lever ones but the double lever work good too.
I have three of them, although one is a basket case. I've installed 1+5 drags and newell/501 spacer bars to stiffen them up a little more. I don't like the knucklebuster lever so I replaced the sideplates with the single lever ones. I haven't fished with them but figure thay are equivalent to a 4/0 senator.
Pros: all steel gears, the 349H and HC have a fast retrieve ratio of 1:3.25, narrow spool (if that's what you like).
Cons: parts are getting hard to get. Metal drag washers are very hard to find if you want to upgrade the slow 349 to a 1+5 drag stack.
Master mariners can be confusing. I believe all sideplates have "349" molded in them, so you must count the spool revolutions to know if you have the slow speed 349 or the faster 349H/349HC. I suppose that could be considered another "con". The slow 349 has a 1:2.3 retrieve ratio. I have 349's with both gear ratios.
George
The gear ratio can be changed from 3.25:1 (349H) to 2.3:1 (349) without side plate mods.
What about the aluminum spool? just lighter than the old one piece bronze ones or harder to get warped?
x2 on George and Lee's comments - 349s are great.
I have the HC and use it for deep water grouper/hapuku fishing.
The second AR lever never gets touched.
I've done the same mods - S/S sleeve, CF drag etc and have it loaded with 80lb braid.
Tight spooling with mono can warp the spool, so is best avoided.
Cheers, Justin
Quote from: buitrechico on November 05, 2012, 07:41:59 PM
What about the aluminum spool? just lighter than the old one piece bronze ones or harder to get warped?
Not sure about warpage, the aluminum spool hasn't been fished yet, but it is MUCH lighter.
I use the optional anti reverse lever for big black drums.Two red crabs tied on the hook (back to back,so one of them is always walking on the sea floor)with a rubber band.Anti reverse off.When black drum takes the bait and moves away (a very distrustful fish,at least here in the Argentine sea) spool begins to spin (you've got to put your thumb softly on the spool flange to avoid backlashes and also making the fish feels just a very little resistance).When black drum moves away faster and carefree you put the antireverse on and fish is strong and deep hooked.After that, the battle begins.
I may have misunderstood, but I think we're talking about different functions.
The secondary AR lever on the HC disengages the AR dog, but not the spool - meaning the handle turns backwards with the spool (also known as a 'knuckle buster' and very disconcerting if you have a fish on ;)).
The traditional freespool lever disengages the pinion gear from the spool, so the it can turn freely - which appears to be what you're describing.
Hope I'm not confusing things here ;) ;D
Cheers, Justin
For some applications having the handle turn is a plus, not for me though.
We're talking about the same function Justin, the secondary AR lever that disengages the AR dog.In that position spool and handle spin together.I never had a problem with the"'knuckle buster" (at least so far :D)
Richard
Righto, thanks Richard.
I've been thinking about Richard's method of using the "knucklebuster" lever. The clicker restricts the crabs movement, so the handle locked in gear with the spool can be another indicator that a fish is on. When a fish strikes, the handle turns at a faster rate, setting off the alarm bells in your head. Flip the lever, and viola, FISH ON. Interesting.
Not exactly George.The clicker is off.You must not restrict the crabs movement,you've got to let them act naturally.Crabs make spool spins very slow (almost imperceptible) ;)
Quote from: buitrechico on November 06, 2012, 04:22:51 AM
Not exactly George.The clicker is off.You must not restrict the crabs movement,you've got to let them act naturally.Crabs make spool spins very slow (almost imperceptible) ;)
That is what I said, or at least meant, in my own pathetic way. ;D
Sorry George,I misunderstood what you said about the clicker(sometimes my English is not good) You were absolutely right,your own way is not pathetic) ;D ;D ;D
Richard
Your english is fine, Richard. I'm just making fun of myself. ;D
Now i really wish i would have bought that one i saw today, it was really cool lookin. How much line will the hold?
I put 400m of 80lb braid on mine, plus a little 50lb mono undershot.
I don't have a line counter to measure how much line I put on my reels but we fish Pacific halibut at 600'-700' using 60lb braid and there is a lot of line left on the spool. Penn Parts says 350yds of 30lb mono for the 349 (440yds of 30lb mono for the 113H for ref).
I put a little daccron on the spool to keep the Spectra from slipping and then top them with 60lb braid and a 5'-10' 50lb mono topshot. I've found that 60lb braid works better than 80lb when fishing deep with even a small amount of curent/drift. We often use 48oz weights and sometimes we can't keep on the bottom.
A 5+1 drag stack is an easy mod and a SS 113H gear sleeve will work, not the same but they work well. So far I haven't tested a 7+1 349 drag stack on a large fish.
Well i am going to try and get that shops number and call him tommorow, i am pretty sure it was a 349hc. Might be my new king reel ;)