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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: JNP on November 16, 2012, 06:13:50 PM

Title: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: JNP on November 16, 2012, 06:13:50 PM
Hello everybody.
Today I decided to open and relube my old black 114.
When I tried to unscrew the handle screw 23-116 it was impossible.
It is stuck on the handle ,no turn at all.
I put force by hand but nothing.
I used a hummer on the Penn key nothing again.
Please any other idea to try?
Thanks,John.
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: Keta on November 16, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
First try getting a good hold in it with a pair of Vice Grips, if that does not work drill it out with a drill bit smaller than the minor diameter of the screw, you might end up replacing the handle if you don't get it dead center.  A LH drill bit would be better than a RH one.
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: JNP on November 16, 2012, 06:47:11 PM
Quote from: Keta on November 16, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
First try getting a good hold in it with a pair of Vice Grips, if that does not work drill it out with a drill bit smaller than the minor diameter of the screw, you might end up replacing the handle if you don't get it dead center.  A LH drill bit would be better than a RH one.
Thank you Lee.
The last think I will do is to carry a cat by the tail.John.
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: Keta on November 16, 2012, 06:50:05 PM
Me too, our cats are all tough barn cats and they know what claws and teeth are for.
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: alantani on November 16, 2012, 07:19:29 PM
maybe a bigger wrench? http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=164.0

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Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: Alto Mare on November 16, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
The master wrench form Alan might do the job :-\.
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: Alto Mare on November 16, 2012, 07:25:11 PM
Funny Alan, we posted at the same time. Great minds think alike  ;)....don't add anything to it ;D.
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: Joel.B on November 16, 2012, 07:25:40 PM
let it soak with a good penetrating fluid like break-free or pb blaster etc.....Kroil...if you have a palm-sander, take the bare rubber surface and hold it tight against the screw and turn it on and let it work for a while. DOnt get any oils on your sander.

Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: JNP on November 17, 2012, 06:52:48 PM
Thank you all.
1) I cleaned the handle screw with carb cleaner.
2) I soaked it with Loktite 8018 penetration fluid
    for a couple of hours.
3) I held the handle firmly with my bench clamp.
4) I put the Penn wrench in a tube 8 in long.
    And finally the torque was able to unscrew it.
End of the story.John
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: alantani on November 17, 2012, 07:01:06 PM
glad it worked!
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: Alto Mare on November 17, 2012, 07:02:03 PM
Glad to hear it worked out for you.
I would still purchase one of those wrenches mentioned above, it will make a world of difference.
Sal
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: JNP on November 17, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 17, 2012, 07:02:03 PM
Glad to hear it worked out for you.
I would still purchase one of those wrenches mentioned above, it will make a world of difference.
Sal
Next time when I buy anything from Alan this powerful wrench will come to Greece.
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: Alto Mare on November 18, 2012, 12:05:11 AM
Great! Just keep in mind that we also customize wrenches ;):

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Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: JNP on November 18, 2012, 09:25:47 PM
Sal, this is not a wrench any more, this is a jewel! John
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: Alto Mare on November 18, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
  ;D ;D
John,I needed a clean slate so Alan could engrave his name on it ;)
Title: Re: Penn 114 handle screw 23-116 is stuck.
Post by: JNP on November 18, 2012, 11:23:34 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 18, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
  ;D ;D
John,I needed a clean slate so Alan could engrave his name on it ;)
And then I am sure he shall cover it with Yamaha grease for protection. ;D