I just picked up this 114 HL Narrow.
The reel was in a rough shape, but as you can see from the pictures, it cleaned up really nice.
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The cost of the reel was $60
New SS Sleeve $26
New drag kit $14
New SS dogs (2) $10
New SS handle $40
My custom rod brace $15
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Total of $165
Not a bad Tuna reel for $165. I'm sure on the long run, this baby will outfish those new fancy reels you guys like so much....sorry I had to put that in there ;D.
Enjoy. Sal
Great looking reel Sal. I know its top notch inside too. I know who did the work. ;) Bob
Wow!! You continue to amaze me. It sure doesn't look rough now. :)
looks nice! i think i have one of those kits left!
Great work Sal - as always.
And well done getting the kitted reel for $60!
It's a 'brute on a budget' ;) ;D
Cheers, Justin
Very nice,now go catch some tuna.Great work as always.
William
Lovely job Sal, are those lock nuts on the Rod Clamp?
NICE!!!!!!!!!!
Another nice reel!
Sal, I'm amazed at the deals you find.
Sal,
Great deal on the reel and it looks great too. I have narrow 6/0 but don't use it much, maybe I should. What size tuna will you target with that reel ??? Will you be trolling or using live bait ??
John
John, you hear so many different views. All I'm going to tell you is that this reel, the way I have it set up, won't have any issues handling a cow ;).
If we could only get 3.25:1 ss gears, this reel would be very hard to beat for the value, well, mine already is. I do have ss gears in it , but they're 2.8:1 :-\.
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 26, 2012, 03:53:58 AM
Not a bad Tuna reel for $165. I'm sure on the long run, this baby will outfish those new fancy reels you guys like so much....sorry I had to put that in there ;D.
Enjoy. Sal
Sal, I don't know about the others, but no need to apologize to me ;) I like old-school Penns ;D
It's a great thing, how we often find these complete Tib/Accurate framed reels for less than the cost of a new frame/spool. Nice score!
George
they look great sal,now for some lever drags
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 26, 2012, 05:03:23 PM
John, you hear so many different views. All I'm going to tell you is that this reel, the way I have it set up, won't have any issues handling a cow ;).
If we could only get 3.25:1 ss gears, this reel would be very hard to beat for the value, well, mine already is. I do have ss gears in it , but they're 2.8:1 :-\.
The problem I see is not strength but line capacity, not a factor when fishing over the continental shelf and shallow but when a big fish can dive and not hit bottom for 1200' or more I'd rather have a bigger reel. I guess you can always snap on a second rig and toss the first rod over the side if you are close to getting spooled.
Having said the above, I don't think I'd feel handycaped using a 114HN for large YFT but I prefer my modified 2 speed reels, there are times 1:1 is a good gear ratio....especialy when you are a busted up old guy.
Quote from: wallacewt on November 26, 2012, 07:42:11 PM
they look great sal,now for some lever drags
Sorry buddy, I don't own any. Just one of those things :-\.
Quote from: Keta on November 26, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
The problem I see is not strength but line capacity, not a factor when fishing over the continental shelf and shallow but when a big fish can dive and not hit bottom for 1200' or more I'd rather have a bigger reel. I guess you can always snap on a second rig and toss the first rod over the side if you are close to getting spooled.
Having said the above, I don't think I'd feel handycaped using a 114HN for large YFT but I prefer my modified 2 speed reels, there are times 1:1 is a good gear ratio....especialy when you are a busted up old guy.
Lee, this reel holds 900yds of 80lb braid.
I forgot to mention to John to go back in history and take a look at one of his vintage catalogs...they don't lie. The 9/0 has caught tuna over 1000lb.
Besides the pinion being a little smaller in diameter, this one is tougher than the 9/0 , in my opinion.
Another beast has been created! I have to ask about that reel clamp as it looks familiar. Is that clamp from a 12/0-16/0 with the ring (you removed) that you've modified to fit by drilling new holes, and installed Nylock nuts on?
Sweet set up but what made you go with that clamp set up?
Thanks
Dom
Hey Dom.
The reel came without the clamp, sellers are getting smarter, some are getting $20 for those. I just didn't feel like spending $20 and used what I had. Those heavy duty clamps will work from the 6/0 to the 16/0.
When I drove to Jersey a while back to get my two new Fenwick rods.....I didn't want the seller to ship them, he had lots of goodies in the back of his pickup truck and four of these clamps, so I grabbed them( good thing I only had $500 left in my wallett. Yes it is pre drilled for the ring, but I have room on the side to tie.
The earlier Tib kits came with bolts and a flat metal clamp, similar to the one on a 6/0. Those bolts and nuts are ss, from Tiburon, kit # TC-4, no Nylon. The bolts are 2" long, the standard 1 1/4" bolts won't work with this type clamp.
Later bro.
Sal
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 26, 2012, 03:54:12 PM
Sal, I'm amazed at the deals you find.
Bryan, you know what's funny, I've been trying to purchase a right side plate for over a year now. I have a nice 114HL , almost new, with a red spool and the right side plate is damaged by the drag stack. I see many left side plates for sale, but never see a right side plate with the easy access drags. Everytime I decide to purchase a bit up reel to use it for parts, I can't do it, so I end up fixing it and still stuck without a plate :-\.
That`s a nice , solid, simple reel Sal. I can understand you sticking with star drag reels, with all the issues that levers have with sideplate bearings. Keep it simple is good.
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 27, 2012, 04:19:42 AM
Bryan, you know what's funny, I've been trying to purchase a right side plate for over a year now. I have a nice 114HL , almost new, with a red spool and the right side plate is damaged by the drag stack. I see many left side plates for sale, but never see a right side plate with the easy access drags. Everytime I decide to purchase a bit up reel to use it for parts, I can't do it, so I end up fixing it and still stuck without a plate :-\.
I've been trying to find a left hand maroon handle side plate for a 114H, if I find a red one with the large hole I'll jump on it for you.
Quote from: Keta on November 27, 2012, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 27, 2012, 04:19:42 AM
Bryan, you know what's funny, I've been trying to purchase a right side plate for over a year now. I have a nice 114HL , almost new, with a red spool and the right side plate is damaged by the drag stack. I see many left side plates for sale, but never see a right side plate with the easy access drags. Everytime I decide to purchase a bit up reel to use it for parts, I can't do it, so I end up fixing it and still stuck without a plate :-\.
I've been trying to find a left hand maroon handle side plate for a 114H, if I find a red one with the large hole I'll jump on it for you.
After reading Sal's post I contacted my UK Penn rep re a right hand side plate,he said they have been impossible to obtain over here for many years now. I guess that applies to the left hand plate too.
Try to find a left side bearing for a 349! They are hard to find but I think one is on the way. I just missed a old style small bearing left side plate for a 113H I was going to take the bearing out of for a reel that has been setting stripped down in a box for too long.
Sal and Lee I'll keep my eyes and ears opened for those plates. I hate having an undone reel on the bench :(
Ps- Sal, I meant Nylock... they come in stainless with a nylon insert. I didn't think you trusted a nylon nut to keep that beast attached ;)
Dom
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 26, 2012, 09:59:53 PM
Quote from: wallacewt on November 26, 2012, 07:42:11 PM
they look great sal,now for some lever drags
Sorry buddy, I don't own any. Just one of those things :-\.
yeah, sorta like me and spinning reels!
Quote from: alantani on November 27, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 26, 2012, 09:59:53 PM
Quote from: wallacewt on November 26, 2012, 07:42:11 PM
they look great sal,now for some lever drags
Sorry buddy, I don't own any. Just one of those things :-\.
yeah, sorta like me and spinning reels!
I understand, but there is no need to get confrontational, boss ;D.
Quote from: broadway on November 27, 2012, 04:37:02 PM
I hate having an undone reel on the bench :(
Thanks Dom, let me know about any 349 parts too.
I have 5 of my personal reels apart on my bench, one old ABU 5000C from 2 years ago that I want to put modern gearing and CF drag washers in and a Avet HX I keep getting the wrong parts for...a reel from hell but fortunatly it's one of mine. Somehow I ended up with a gear sleeve for a lefty 114H and I can't leave it be, there is always someone on the boat that can't handle a reel with the handle on the proper side. I'm also trying to convert a Surfmaster 100 to left hand for a friend, I don't think Penn ever made a LH Surfmaster...too bad someone didn't make SS LH gearsleeves ;D
Today is CAD day as soon as I get my boat covered, SS dogs for the smaller Penn reels will be cut soon. Drawing a 15-140 is a PIA!
Sal/Lee, I think I have both. Will check tonight and let you know.
Cheers, Justin
now that's what i call a bargain, a really nice reel...
Sal, what do you mean by outfish? can you define the word? and do you know how much drag this reel pulls? I `m not trying to be confrontational, but genuinely interested.
cheers
Basto
No nothing like that Basto, just that you could fish that reel all year long without doing anything to it and it will never skip a beat. I don't think the new stuff is up to that task :-\. The reel should be able to handle 25 to 30lb. The one piece frame, the ss sleeve and the drag upgrade make this reel happy.
Sal , Head boats in florida use 60 mono on 113h's and I don't think they ever clean them except for maybe a wash down. It is bottom fishing on their 113h, but I think your 114 will handle 80 mono...
I'd say spool that beast with 100# braid with 30#, 40#, 50#, 60#, and 80# top shot option based on the type of fishing you will be doing that particular day.
A reel for all occations, for all types of fishing.
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 28, 2012, 11:18:41 PM
I'd say spool that beast with 100# braid with 30#, 40#, 50#, 60#, and 80# top shot option based on the type of fishing you will be doing that particular day.
A reel for all occations, for all types of fishing.
X2
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 28, 2012, 09:38:28 PM
No nothing like that Basto, just that you could fish that reel all year long without doing anything to it and it will never skip a beat. I don't think the new stuff is up to that task :-\. The reel should be able to handle 25 to 30lb. The one piece frame, the ss sleeve and the drag upgrade make this reel happy.
OK now I`m with you. I think durable is the word. Thanks for your reply, but I know of some new stuff that has been used on charter and professional fishing boats that are still handling that sort of treatment. Of course, the difference is the price.So I think your reel is in a class on it`s own. Congratulations ,it is a beautiful reel which I would love to own myself.
Sal, it would of been great to see what the reel looked like with a before shot and then after. lol! Maybe next time ;D
Steve.
Yes, you're right Steve. I told you that you came up with a great idea and I didn't follow :-\. Maybe on the next one, but my stuff is getting old around here, it's time to step back and give the new guys the stage ;D.
Sal
Nevermind. I'm sure the trained eyes you have for a bargain, it wont be long before you have another project which needs a facelift. ;D
Btw, your hot rodding/informative posts certainly wont get "old" any time soon, Sal. It was a past post of yours about O ring pulling tools which helped add to my reel service armoury, of which, isn't extensive. http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=1971.0 Very helpful tools to aid pulling (stuborn) bearings out of housings and to remove bearing shields. Thanks!
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Quote from: Alto Mare on November 27, 2012, 04:19:42 AM
Bryan, you know what's funny, I've been trying to purchase a right side plate for over a year now. I have a nice 114HL , almost new, with a red spool and the right side plate is damaged by the drag stack. I see many left side plates for sale, but never see a right side plate with the easy access drags. :-\.
I sold one of those to someone on this forum a few months ago. Had no idea you were looking.
One of my better eBay deals was a 114H with the Penn full diameter aluminum frame in very good condition. Cost, with shipping, $63.00. As I said before, there are deals out there if one is patient enough.
so you are the one that got that one. ;)
Very nice job Sal....
you just can't beat those old frames....a couple upgrades and they're bulletproof....
Alan did a couple 112's for me last year and they fished salmon all season with some very nice comments from the users...
Old Penn's forever ;)
Got me another narrow 114HL. This one was a little more than the one above, it cost me $80.
I like to take chances on these, the kit alone costs around $165.
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Fish-aholic mentioned that I should be showing before and after, so here you go:
Here are the cleaned parts
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I'll be trying the gears that I groved in this one plus the usual ss sleeve ss handle and dogs.
Alan, the sleeve is very tight on this one, I'm not complaning, I like it!
Guys if the sleeve feels tight, don't worry, it will set itself in nicely from using it.
I found some carbon fiber sheets on ebay, Smoothdrags and Scotts don't carry those with the fiberglass reinforcement.
Here is where I got them from:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120960145439?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
I have no idea if they will hold up, that's why I installed them in this reel so I could test them.
The ones that I used are 1.10mm thick, if they hold up it would be great, these are very reasonable.
The seller's name is Erik, very nice guy. I'm not sure if he's a member here, I don't think so, but he knew who I was. He sent me extra sheets, he knows about me liking to test things.
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and here is the best I could do with this one, still not bad. The person that I got the reel from had everything lightly greased.
Usually the screw holes on these frames are shot when they look that bad, this one is nice.
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Sal
Very nice sal, once again a gem!
nice!
Magnifique!
Just got done testing these drags, results are at "experimenting with the 113H drags".
Sal
Great stuff Sal.
I've no doubt said it before, but you're a true craftsman ;)
Will be following the drag testing with interest.
Thanks for the post.
Cheers, Justin