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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Keta on January 10, 2013, 04:03:52 PM

Title: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Keta on January 10, 2013, 04:03:52 PM
I have drag stars drawn up for 4/0, 6/0 and 16/0 Senators but I'm reluctant to invest in the tooling to tap the holes.  Is there enough interest in 6 point larger diameter than factory SS stars for me to invest $20.00 each for the special taps so I can at least pay for the tooling?  I want these to be used and profit isn't that much of a concern, loss is.   I also have stock diameter 5 point stars drawn up.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: ShoreKasterHI on January 10, 2013, 06:13:41 PM
I'd be interested in a couple.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Ron Jones on January 10, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
I'll send a cashiers check this week!
Ron
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: RowdyW on January 10, 2013, 08:19:38 PM
I'd be interested in 4/0 drag stars. They are getting a little overpriced from Penn.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Keta on January 10, 2013, 08:50:48 PM
I could sell 3 at their price and pay for materials, time and tooling.  


Ron, I prefer to be paid after you get the parts, that way if I forget people aren't upset.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Jimmer on January 10, 2013, 08:56:23 PM
What size taps do you need - I can dig through the garage and see if I have anything you could use hiding out there.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: john2244 on January 10, 2013, 09:05:38 PM
Lee,

I will buy a few of the 4/0 and 6/0 stars.  When they are ready I will place and order.

John
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Jerseymic on January 10, 2013, 10:25:49 PM
I would like a 4/0 and a 6/0.

Mike.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Keta on January 10, 2013, 10:31:13 PM
It looks like taps for 4/0 and 6/0 will be ordered as soon as I replace the $ from the 15-200, 15-309 and 15-500 dogs I should have soon, they are waiting to be cut.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: ShoreKasterHI on January 11, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
I forgot to mention i'll take 2 for the 4/0. Will it be for 113h or 113?
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: slgriffiths on January 11, 2013, 08:54:07 AM
Lee,

I'd be up for 3 at least of the 4/0s, and a couple of 6/0s.  A SS drag star sounds great!. I'd finally get around to ordering  a pile of ss dogs as well at the same time.  Seemed a little crazy getting 6 dogs sent  to NZ...  now there's a real reason!
And price 'em as you need to.  Quality costs.

Simon.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on January 11, 2013, 11:37:36 AM
Lee i want 2 for the 4/0 113H and don't forget the SS dogs. thanks!
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Keta on January 11, 2013, 02:08:16 PM
The measurements are odd and my machinist friend is looking at the sleeves today.  My eyes are not so good anymore and it's hard to read a thread gage and we came up with thread pitches that we don't believe, machinist is 10 years younger with better eyes.  

slgriffiths, up to 6 dogs can be mailed in a envelope and for not much$

Mel, Hopefully I'll be cleaning and polishing them today.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Robert Janssen on January 11, 2013, 03:16:42 PM
IIRC some of them used a buttress thread. Not the kind of tap one is likely to have lying around.

Maybe they've changed to vee thread form nowadays; idunno.

.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Keta on January 11, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
It's "V" thread but it looks like a metric pitch on an inch shaft, I've run into this in the past.  I have some NS taps up to 1" but they are all inch/inch not metric/inch.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: broadway on January 11, 2013, 03:57:12 PM
Lee,
    I've been waiting for a Penn star drag in the aftermarket... the Pro gears are nicely detailed and colorful but aluminum isn't the right material.  I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with, but you can count me in for at least 4 for the 4/0, 4 for the 6/0, and if you make them for the 3/0 I'll take 4 more.  The numbers I just gave are for starters ;)
Thanks for bringing even more to the table!
Thanks,
Dom
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: seaeagle2 on January 12, 2013, 06:43:43 PM
Depending on cost I'd be in for between 2 to 4.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Ron Jones on January 12, 2013, 08:38:12 PM
Lee,

If you need start up money let us know, I've been using 113 stars on smaller reels as an upgrade and am desperate for nicer stars for the bigger reels. Come to think of it, a big star for the 60 sleeve would be great on a grouper special.

Ron
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Keta on January 12, 2013, 10:19:03 PM
If I forget who sent money I'd look like more of a flake than I already do, CRS is not fun to deal with.  I'll start with the 113H, then 114H, and on up the Senator series.  The 113 takes the same size thread as the 500, it will be in line too.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: suitekids on January 12, 2013, 11:46:29 PM
I'll take 6:   2 for the 500 with fine thread Alan Tani Sleeve, 2 for the 113h with fine thread Alan Tani sleeve, and 2 for the 114h with fine thread Alan Tani sleeve, let me know if you are going to make these for sure...Dan
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: George4741 on January 13, 2013, 03:39:39 AM
Alrightee Lee,
I'll order one each 113H and 114H.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: elnath on January 14, 2013, 04:25:57 PM
I'd take a 113H and a 114H version.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: joel8080 on January 14, 2013, 06:10:00 PM
Hi Keta

I will take 2 113H & 2 114H let me know the price and I will Pay Pal the money to you or I can have my Son send you a check from Los Angeles.

Regards

Joel
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: slgriffiths on March 30, 2013, 03:00:20 AM
Hi Lee,

How did you get on with the SS drag stars?
Would still love to get a couple.

Simon
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Keta on March 30, 2013, 03:11:10 AM
The taps are hard to find, I'll try to get back on it soon.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: BMITCH on March 30, 2013, 11:12:40 PM
Hi Lee, when you get the SS stars up and running i would like 3 for the 500, 1 for the113H and 1for the 114H. Letme know cost when your ready.


Thanks
Bob
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Bryan Young on March 30, 2013, 11:47:41 PM
Hi Lee,

Do you have an idea of the size?  I wouldn't mind if the stars were larger.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: saltydog on March 31, 2013, 12:15:04 AM
Lee I will take 3 for the 113H and 1 for the 114H
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Keta on March 31, 2013, 03:18:03 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 30, 2013, 11:47:41 PM
Hi Lee,

Do you have an idea of the size?  I wouldn't mind if the stars were larger.

I have to figure out where my note pad is to get the diameter and pitch, one was inch diameter with a metric pitch.   I have larger diameter stars drawn up too and It's not that much work to make changes in the drawings.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: BMITCH on March 31, 2013, 02:12:21 PM
I would like larger for all the ones I requested. If they become available.

Thanks,bob
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Cone on April 01, 2013, 12:13:01 AM
Lee, If you have someone who can thread on a lathe. I have some water hardening steel i can send you to make a tap with.  Bob
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: Jerseymic on April 01, 2013, 07:34:04 AM
Lee

I would like one for the 113H and one for the 114H

Mike.
Title: Re: 6 Point SS Drag Stars For Senators
Post by: El Pescador on April 01, 2013, 04:45:19 PM
Lee,

PLEASE order ONE for me for a 114H, thank you.   Wayne