Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Welcome! => Welcome! => Topic started by: arrowslinger on January 10, 2013, 08:29:54 PM

Title: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 10, 2013, 08:29:54 PM
Hello all, I am new here and just getting started rebuilding some Penn 49 and 49L's that I use for snagging Paddlefish in Missouri. I also wanted to pass on an orginization that a group of Hunter Ed Instructors including myself started here in Mo. We have been taking youth from our classes that we identify as probably having no opotunity to go hunting. So we have evolved into quite an orginization. Here is a link to our website!http://www.mhhf.us/ (http://www.mhhf.us/)

Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Jimmer on January 10, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
Welcome Arrowslinger, here's a link to Miz Mo at Scott's bait and tackle  sideplate tutorial for the 49, it's down the right side of the page.
https://scottsbt.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203391919-MysticParts-com-49L-Handle-Side-Plate-Assembly (https://scottsbt.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203391919-MysticParts-com-49L-Handle-Side-Plate-Assembly)
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn49L.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn49L.aspx)
               Glad to hear you're taking kids hunting - never hurts to take 'em fishin' too!- Jimmer


"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Keta on January 10, 2013, 10:02:18 PM
Hi
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: kamuwela on January 10, 2013, 10:37:55 PM
aloha
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 10, 2013, 10:41:34 PM
Thanks all , Jimmer I do get kids out any chance I have it is my way of paying back all of the good experieces I have been afforded! Did you check out the site yet?
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: alantani on January 11, 2013, 02:06:22 AM
great website!  thanks for the link and welcome.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 11, 2013, 02:59:02 AM
Trying to add piture
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Jimmer on January 11, 2013, 12:24:04 PM
Nice site - looks like a great organization.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Norcal Pescador on January 11, 2013, 05:36:44 PM
Welcome aboard!
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Keta on January 11, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
Can you post some photos of the prehistoric fish?  
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 12:45:05 AM
Left to Right a friend ,my brother and me! Can't wait for the season opener!






(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag145/arrowslinger4/2009_04150066_zpsdbb20831.jpg)
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 12:46:40 AM
A few 70 pus pounders,good times = good food!


(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag145/arrowslinger4/2009_04150064_zpsc25769e3.jpg)
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 12:51:46 AM
Here they are Keta!
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Keta on January 12, 2013, 01:59:40 AM
NICE!!!  Thanks.  Paddlefish are something I've always wanted to target but they are too far from the ocean.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Bill B on January 12, 2013, 03:44:22 AM
welcome from northern california...glad we don't have those swimming in the delta.....not sure what i'd do with one ???
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 04:32:01 AM
They are good eating Tarfu, they are made like sharks no back bone or ribs just cartilage. the meat is a lot like Salmon believe it or not kind of heavy and oily it is great grilled just like Salmon. There is a lot of waste as the have a thick layer of fat that is not good to eat! It is our big game fishing here in Missouri, they eat Plankton and therefore will not bite any bait so we snag them. We take a 7' solid fiberglass snaggin rod and a heavy reel like the 49L and 309's spooled with 90-130# nylon braid line. Lot of work draggin a 16 oz. sinker and three 10/0 hooks, and alot of fun too. I've been snaggin my whole life and opening weekend it is wall to wall boats.Here is a picture of my daughters first keeper. they have to be 34" from eye to fork of the tail that makes about a 24# fish!

(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag145/arrowslinger4/Jessica1_zps7de38560.jpg)
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Alto Mare on January 12, 2013, 01:16:33 PM
very nice, you mind showing me that 16 oz sinker with hooks? I'm guessing you make them yourself.
Sal
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 02:21:37 PM
Here is the hook and sinkers we use, I pour my own sinkers !


(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag145/arrowslinger4/DSCF8709_zps1fb0159c.jpg)
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Alto Mare on January 12, 2013, 02:31:44 PM
Thanks for the picture, Arrowslinger.
I thought you were using something similar to these:
http://www.google.com/search?q=snagging+hooks&hl=en&tbo=u&biw=1280&bih=899&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=xHHxUJa1H8Px0wGB4IGwCw&sqi=2&ved=0CEsQsAQ
The ones that I use are 2 to 3oz, but  I only snag Bunker to use as bait.
Sal
Sorry, I wanted to show one picture and can't change it.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 02:48:21 PM
No I have tried those hooks withe the weight but you tend to get hung up on the bottom! The way we set up the hooks and sinkers is tie the sinker about 18" below the first hook and tie two more hooks on above that. We troll this or cast but mainly troll behind boat up and down the river.Dependent on the depth.current and where in the water column fish are determine the amount of weight we use all the way from 6oz.to 22oz.we have during high water tied more than one sinker on!
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 02:58:24 PM
It amazes quite a few people that do not snag as to how far you can cast a 10-16 oz. sinker with a 7' solid fiberglass rod with 130# line on a Penn 49!
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Alto Mare on January 12, 2013, 03:15:34 PM
Thanks for the info, arrowslinge.
You're mentioning a Penn 49, have you ever experienced any damage to the gear sleeve tip rounding off, or the sleeve post getting lose on the bridge plate.
The 49 is a nice reel, but the gears are too good for its own good, I've seen a few with  damaged that I mentioned above.
A Jigmaster gear sleeve is just too small for that reel. :-\
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
Yes I have had sleeves round off, that is how I found this board. I bought the stainless sleeve from Alan and have two rebuilt so far! Any other suggestions on how to improve them would be appreciated. I am going to buy a couple of Kolekar knobs and give them a try.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: conchydong on January 12, 2013, 07:24:50 PM


Welcome, nice charity work you do.
Those Paddlefish are pretty neat.
Do you cure the roe for caviar? I heard that Paddlefish caviar is pretty good but have never tried it.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 07:39:24 PM
Well there has been so much Paddlefish poaching :( for the eggs that the conservation dept. made a regulation for it to be illegal to posses eggs. We used them to eat and bait but not anymore! We actually had a Russian ring buying the eggs which made it very lucrative. You can get a permit to buy legally harvested eggs and one company sells them under the name Missouri Caviar.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Alto Mare on January 12, 2013, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
Yes I have had sleeves round off, that is how I found this board. I bought the stainless sleeve from Alan and have two rebuilt so far! Any other suggestions on how to improve them would be appreciated. I am going to buy a couple of Kolekar knobs and give them a try.
You're on the right track, this particular reel benefits from the ss sleeve more than others. Carbontex washers or HT100's, in the gear and one under , with a touch of Cal's is also a good thing. That's about all we have for now, I'm trying something on my own to beef up the area mentioned above, nothing concrete yet....don't have the time.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
I did get new drag disc's and the one under gear also from Alan, I can't wait to get out and try them. Our season starts 3/15! I bought some Cals and corrosion X the disc had grease on them but I'm not sure if more is needed!
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Cone on January 13, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
Welcome Arrowslinger, I've done a little snagging or snatching myself. Those paddlefish look like fun. Bob
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 13, 2013, 03:03:21 AM
Quote from: Cone on January 13, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
Welcome Arrowslinger, I've done a little snagging or snatching myself. Those paddlefish look like fun. Bob

Thanks Bob this looks like a place I should have found a long time ago!Yes those bills are fun I have been chasing them for as long as I can remember. We used to have two seasons one in the winter with the snow it was fun camping in the snow and catching Spoonbill. Most people thought we were crazy!
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Cone on January 13, 2013, 03:23:25 AM
I've been thought of a crazy myself. I've mellowed with age though.  :o Bob
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: TomT on January 13, 2013, 06:24:23 AM
Sounds like an old Waylon song---"I've always been crazy, but it keeps me from going insane"  ;D
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Alto Mare on January 13, 2013, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: arrowslinger on January 12, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
Yes I have had sleeves round off, that is how I found this board. I bought the stainless sleeve from Alan and have two rebuilt so far! Any other suggestions on how to improve them would be appreciated. I am going to buy a couple of Kolekar knobs and give them a try.
Ok Arrowslinger, from exchanging messages with you yesterday, I decided to get back on a project that I postponed.
So, here are some more suggestions:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=6197.msg52058#msg52058

This is still green, we need to fine tune it a bit, but we'll get it done.
I hope it will help you out.
Sal
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 27, 2013, 12:27:23 AM
Can any one here describe how to tell by a picture if a 49, reels on the left side with left hand for a Right hander?
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: Keta on January 27, 2013, 12:33:05 AM
Externally they are the same.
Title: Re: New to board and info
Post by: arrowslinger on January 27, 2013, 06:16:18 PM
Is the 49M the reel from LH side?