From Tom (Irish Jigger):
Here's another take on the S/S double dogs, this time in alternating format in the 112H.
The reason for the alternating dogs is to reduce handle slop, especially when using the Penn 24-56 power handle.
Pic one: Minimum cutout leaving sufficient material for bridge support.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/20/3590_07_08_17_4_51_46_2082145.jpeg)
Pic two: 2mm stainless steel dogs with retaining pins to assist in locating/supporting springs.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/20/3590_07_08_17_4_51_46_208231407.jpeg)
Pic three: Sub assembly. Note the custom dogs - the left dog is slightly longer than the right dog to allow for alternating engagement.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/20/3590_07_08_17_4_51_46_20822701.jpeg)
Pic four: Assembly showing the right dog protruding slightly beyond bridge.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/20/3590_07_08_17_4_51_45_20820441.jpeg)
Holy cow, that's awesome.
I agree - great work Tom.
Meticulous and finely crafted.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers, Justin
Very interesting Tom, that's what it's all about...keep improving.
I really like the design ;).
I'm not criticizing you or anything like that, I enjoy everything you bring to the table. It might be a good idea to leave a little more meat at the area where the new coil spring rests. This is a small adjustment, I just don't think that removing axcessive material there is necessary. Here is a shot of what I'm talking about:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/parsts%20an%20such/Alternating_dogs-three_zpsb6ebac8f.jpg)
Thanks for bringing it to us Tom.
Sal
Quite right Sal. I realised that after making the cut out. With hindsight I could have left more material in that area and still had room for a longer spring location slot. I am happy with it as there is very little load on that particular spring.
There's always room for improvement,the next one will be different.
Justin,many thanks for downloading this,still trying! ;D
Very nice job. The dogs look great. Bob
NICE!
I LIKE IT!
"Who let the dogs out?"......
Nice work Tom!
Ok, I'm inspired ! i think it's about time for me to give this a shot on my 112h,113h, and 500
I have a question for you Double Doggers...
Are you reusing the same bridge screws and original dog and just adding a new dog, or swapping the old one out for a different shape?
and.. who can supply those dogs & springs?
Thanks for sharing!
Nice job Tom.
Thank's guys for your nice comments.
Erikpowell, for simultaneous double dogging Jigmasters or Special Senators the original dogs,springs and bridge screws will suffice. You may have to adjust the length of one dog to achieve simultaneous engagement.
Lee (Keta) can supply stainless steel dogs for most of these Penn's.
Sal (Alto Mare) can advise re leaf springs for the 112H and 113H.
As these reels are man enough for anything I am likely to catch I only need alternating dogs to reduce handle slop and had to shorten one standard size dog on the Jigmaster to achieve this.
The 112H modification necessitated making new dogs in order to have them reacting directly in line with the bridge screws and again one has to be shorter than the other.
Like Lee I make mine from 14swg (2mm) stainless steel offcuts.
Very nice job.
Very nice! By chance was kind of Stainless Steel are those dogs made out of? Also are you going to upgrade the sleeve to stainless as well?
SNAPPEHEAD
Mine are 308 and 316.
Hi SNAPPERHEAD,they are 316. I have considered a ss Sleeve but as the reel is never overloaded I may just stay with the brass Sleeve. I agree with Lee's take on this one that brass running on a ss Bridge shaft is preferable to ss on ss.
Quote from: Irish Jigger on February 15, 2013, 12:02:51 AM
Hi SNAPPERHEAD,they are 316. I have considered a ss Sleeve but as the reel is never overloaded I may just stay with the brass Sleeve. I agree with Lee's take on this one that brass running on a ss Bridge shaft is preferable to ss on ss.
I understand where you both are coming from on this - one softer, preferably self-lubricating type metal on another harder one. But these are fishing reels, and while we love them, and want to do whatever we can to improve them, realistically the sleeves and shafts are running at very, very slow speeds (relative to most machinery) and at very, very low pressures given the surface areas involved- surely a little lubrication (grease)and SS on SS will last without significant wear for more years than most of us get to fish!
The advantage of a SS gear sleeve to me is the ability to withstand rounding off by the handle, not the ability to withstand wear.
Has anyone ever seen a gear sleeve worn out on the bridge shaft?
Simon.
Hi Simon,
I have yet to see the gear sleeve wear at the bridge area, but have replace a lot of dogs.
Bryan
Simon, seen my share of brass ones rounded off at the handle area though. I agree that the main reason I replace them is to avoid this handle failure.
You've got me thinking guys,maybe it's time to move on and fit stainless steel sleeves to my Penn's. Should be ok provided they are well lubricated as suggested.
Over half the reels I repair need replacement sleeves where the sleeve, and sometimes the handle have both become damaged.
Very nice work Tom! I like it. There are a lot of new reels with special alloys,latest technology,light weights and everything you want (very expensive price also),but the "classics" old Penn still remain through the time (upgraded or not) .
Richard
:o Hey fellas,this Irish guy from Bangor is becoming pretty popular for his nice works,isn't he?
All of my Penns have upgraded sleeves and dogs once I aquire one,haven't seen any problems from them or others I have repaired.It is one of the best mods you can do other than adding a solid frame and other bling.