hi
im having trouble with one of my avets, its making a knocking noise on retrieve,if i crank the handle for a few turns around 5 it starts knocking and i can feel a vibration through the handle. if i stop cranking for a second then start again it stops for afew revoulutions then starts again. any idea what it could be please. dont think its bearing related, the gears are fine. the drag plate does seem a little lose on the pinion gear could it be this ?
thanks matt
Possibly a problem with the Connection Arm and or the Friction Ring
Crack open the reel and check these areas
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thanks for your repley, funny that you mention this as recenty i was into a big fish with a heavy weight to hold bottom and i lost the anti reverse function while fighting it, tore the reel down and found that i bent the connection arm by the dog, so i ust bent it back and thought no more of it, ill order a replacement and see how it goes thank you.
ive now replaced the connection arm but im still getting the knocking noise and feeling intermittently through the handle any other suggestions please really stuck here.
Do you get the knocking noise with the sideplate off the frame?
not sure will try that, it gets worse the more the drag gets set. will take pics if it will help
It might be a bad pinion bearing and if the bearing is noisy in free spool as well, you will hear it, especially with the left spool bearing.
thanks for your help Bryan, im leaning towards a problem withe the drag plate and pinion gear, the plate sits very loose on the gear if i look at it wrong it will fall off, could this cause the knocking. do bearings create a noise like that the last one i changed had more of a constant grrrrr and a rough feeling.
They can if one or two of the ball bearing is bad. Spins fine then grrr, then fine, then grrr every once an a while.
Quote from: Bryan Young on May 06, 2013, 07:40:57 PM
They can if one or two of the ball bearing is bad. Spins fine then grrr, then fine, then grrr every once an a while.
Sounds like my dog. :D :D :D
so today i replaced the pinion bearing and spool bearings ust incase, while it was apart i did not hear it knocking as soon as i put it back togeather it started knocking again, the higher i set the drag the harder it knocks. does not happen in free spool only when in gear.
Try checking the handle shaft bearings. There are two of them.
If there is no noise when turning the handle in freespool, then it's likely that the spool is hitting something while turning.
When turning the handle in freespool, the drive gear is still engaged with the pinion and the brake plate is still turning.
When the lever is pushed forward, the brake plate engages the carbon drag washer, which in turn spins the spool.
With the small Avets, the spool is "pulled" toward the right sideplate. So it's likely that the spool is hitting something on the right side.
Try this.
Set the lever in free and completely back of the preset. Use your thumb to manually spin the spool.
Put your ear up against the reel and see if the sound is coming from the right side plate, left side of the reel or the spool bearings
Since you had issues with your connection arm previous, it's likely that it's bent out of shape and is hitting the spool. Or maybe the friction ring is out of shape.
It's also possible that the left spool bearing has gone bad as that bearing also takes some axial load.
ok so today i removed the entire anti reverse assembly, its still the same knocking so its nothing to do with the connection arm or spring. there is noise in free spool also knocks when out of the frame from the right side what else can it be anyone ?
This will be a hard one without knowing the sound.
after swapping parts from my other avet i found the problem to be either or a combination of the pinion gear and anti reverse gear.
I'm a bit confused. Does it only occur with the spool and pinion gear installed?
yes only then, its fine without them installed. i swapped the pinion and drag plate over from my woking reel and it worked fine.
What puzzes me is that it occurs ever 5 or so cranks. Just maybe at that time, the two worst damaged area of both gears contact each other.
What happened to the (quote:) "plate sits very loose on the gear if i look at it wrong it will fall off", was this not a part of the problem after all? Did you manage to identify and resolve what caused the sounds and vibrations in your SX?
yes that was the problem, im waiting on the parts to come from avet.